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the planets thought the Masters almost

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surely have a plan

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this clearly may be something there

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beyond the realm of man

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you think you know the less you really

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do that's true dr. Zaius

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here we go higher side Cheddar's

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drinking a little drink smokin a little

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smoke and ready to get weird with you

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from sunny San Diego I'm Greg Carl wood

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and today is a hell of an episode I've

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been holding on to it for way too long

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but the live show took a whole lot of

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preparation and it took a lot of time to

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actually get it done and put it out and

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my talk with Chris didn't follow the

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typical interview time line because we

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ran into a couple of different issues

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along the way that caused us to have to

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stop or even go back and retread some of

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the same ground but it was a fun day of

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getting really deep into the siren saga

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and all the areas that it spirals out

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into I think you end up with almost an

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extra hour of show when it's all said

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and done and who doesn't like that but

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really the reason I'm jumping the gun to

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talk to you here is to say that we

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recorded this just days before the Vegas

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shooting which is something that Chris

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and me to really have just been obsessed

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over since it happened and what's really

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crazy is that so many symbolic elements

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show up in both cases I think the first

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thing Chris said to me after the

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shooting was didn't we just spend a lot

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of time talking about black pyramids in

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Las Vegas and it's true I say it in the

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show but we had to leave some threads

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alone because we didn't want to over

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complicate the story but Vegas and black

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pyramids are a big part of it and Chris

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has been throwing out warnings related

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to bad omens in Vegas and symbolic

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pressure mounting since May but we also

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know from Austin Copic and Preston Gibbs

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our astrology guests that Regulus is the

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star of the show this year the brightest

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star in the constellation of Leo Leo is

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the lion and who is at the very heart of

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the whole Vegas thing MGM what's their

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logo their classic symbol they've used

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forever the lion so this is the sort of

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connection making that conspiracy folks

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get mocked for with token characters and

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movies and TV but this is how a synchro

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mystic sees the world connections matter

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symbols matter and the gods are more

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involved than materialists would have

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you believe and many guests are seeing

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the current agenda as blending the

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worlds or opening portals for the elites

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our Connick overlords to spill in

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through and I'm starting to concur it is

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what our oldest texts seem to describe

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and Chris also mention to me the other

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day that he thinks that's why twinning

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spin such a theme lately and comes up in

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this case to the whole as above so below

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thing like mirroring much like the date

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10:1 itself but I should just play the

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thing I only wanted you to keep some of

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the Vegas symbolism in mind with the

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show and say that I'm actually very glad

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we recorded it before the shooting

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happened or Vegas would have just

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dominated the whole show and now you

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actually get a lot of context backfilled

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but you can see just how epically this

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story spirals out by the time the

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episodes over and the Vegas situation

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also kind of helped Kris make so many

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new connections that weren't there at

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the time either so do read the secret

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Sun when you're done and go through his

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recent posts it's a great follow up to

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an already wild story and with that

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let's dive in the song to the siren

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music magic and rebuilding Babylon with

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the man himself Christmas

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open up your man information about the

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secret manipulation and the wisest

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aficionados he can find

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that care normally thought we get

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dessert so we can see the world with a

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all right higher side shadows we've been

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around long enough to see the strange

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synchronicities that seem to run in the

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background of reality sometimes so

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elaborate as to suggest a web of

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otherworldly influence that makes one

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wonder if the entire earthly plane is

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nothing more than a stage for

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multi-dimensional actors regularly

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rerunning the old scripts of Babylon add

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in the conspiratorial call signs of

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secret orders and mystery cults and life

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seems even more like a backstage battle

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for influence and ishi a ssin and

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indoctrination that only those outside

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the box really have the eyes to see is

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there some dark alliance between the

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upper crust and the underworld some

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partnership between political players

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scientists and sorcerers of social

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engineering have just come to realize

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that if they Chum the waters of reality

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some strange things come to play however

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you try to explain it it always seems to

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get weirder and that's why we need a guy

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like today's returning guest Chris

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Knowles of course Chris runs the ever

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potent secret sudden blog and is the

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author of great books like our gods

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where spandex the secret history of

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comic book heroes and the secret history

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of rock and roll the mysterious roots of

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modern music one of my favorite sages of

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syncro mysticism the connector of dots

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the untangle er of webs Chris mom an how

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the hell are you I am awesome any time

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talking to Greg call word is a good time

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that's far as serrand oh it's I

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appreciate that man yeah you too great

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to talk to you again last time we did

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this was January the new president was

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just taken office and we talked about a

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lot of the eerie tone that was going on

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in Washington and you know you could

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kind of sense the uneasiness and now

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that we're entering the last couple

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months of the year I guess I'd ask you

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how do you feel about things now has

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anything changed I think things have

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changed

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what we saw what I very strongly believe

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we saw is the after-effects of a by war

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you know intramural wrangling Washington

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between power structures and power

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players I think that the DNC hack which

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I absolutely believe was an inside job I

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don't believe the Russian think for a

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moment and you know what I call the

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Podesta issue which mutated into pizza

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gate you know and sort of took on a life

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of its own but I think that the demons

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you know let out of the box with with

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all that you know skulduggery and

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cloak-and-dagger really seem to create

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this post-election fugue state because I

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think everyone was just sort of

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scrambling around trying to figure out

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how they're gonna respond to this what

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they are going to do you know what their

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strategy is going to be and it's

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interesting we saw sort of like a

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gladion style strategy of tension

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unveiled which is seems to be dying down

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a bit now you know we saw these massive

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rallies and the you know the if Oh Wars

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which all seem to be part of the same

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strategy just different octopus limbs so

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to speak different tentacles but I think

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things of what we see now it's

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interesting what I was looking for in

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the wake of the election since I didn't

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vote and you know had no dog in the

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fight as I was looking for the theme

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what's the theme with Obama we saw this

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you know and this is even before the

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election all this Egyptian King taught

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all this weird kind of crypto Masonic

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right Rising Sun yeah all that kind of

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thing you know and I talked about the

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stairway to see areas how Obama and

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McCain seem to split up the component

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parts of the Syria's hieroglyphs and

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incorporate them into their election

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campaign logos and you know I thought

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this is really odd what's this about and

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that really Unleashed this whole epic

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series of posts on the steroids serious

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and what that means and you know the

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second degree Masonic tracing board and

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the World Financial Center and now you

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know the world trade 1 and whatever it's

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called and alignment with the

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with hotel and just all its kind of

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stuff was just one thing after another

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but we're also getting hit with a lot of

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things like the spectacle at Dubai at

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the Atlantis Hotel which he's just

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watching on wait this isn't a very

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conservative Muslim country and this is

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like literally the most pagan thing I've

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ever seen in my life what I was going on

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here you know there are all these sub

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themes like scene from the space I mean

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there was a whole bunch of themes that I

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was so trying to sort through what I saw

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with the Trump thing was just these

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Roman themes your people are who live in

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New Jersey haven't been in Atlantic City

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don't realize that the Trump casino was

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sort of cheek-by-jowl with the old

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Caesars Palace you know these two

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casinos are like almost in the same

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block and so I sort of started thinking

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about these Roman themes and I was

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thinking about you know he started

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interviewing all these generals and all

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these minerals were being absorbed into

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his administration and I was like this

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is a praetorian guard I mean this is

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literally what we're seeing this is you

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know in the old days when there was some

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sort of chaos in Rome the Praetorian

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Guard would take over and a puppet in

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the Emperor's seat and this happened

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throughout the what they called the

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crisis of the third century so I'm like

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wow this is kind of what and Trump is

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always really played up this whole

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Caesar Roman Emperor kind of motif you

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know you see this in his apartment his

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home he's really kind of gravitated

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towards these themes and archetypes so I

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was kind of like seizing on that and

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then you know this whole thing with

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Mithras which is literally we could do

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an epic series of shows on Mithras and

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how this archetypes just seems to be

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rising everywhere you look but a lot of

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people you know from New Jersey you

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don't realize this when Trump goes on

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vacation he goes to bed Minster which

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was literally right down the street from

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me and at one point across the street

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from him was 18 t world's headquarters

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and there was a statue called the spirit

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of electricity or the genius of

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electricity like that and it was

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basically a 20th century Mithras statue

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I mean it's based exactly on old icons

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of Mithras so I'm thinking okay so he's

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right across the street from Mithras

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this is like a weird conjunction and now

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what we see in Washington is that

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there's this triumvirate we have

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literally rule like just like you know

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this the early Imperial era were ruled

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by a tram right you have Kelly its chief

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of staff you know I mean Donald Trump

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can't even answer his phone without

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getting permission from Kelly now you

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have McMaster who's completely taken

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over the foreign policy apparatus and

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you have mattis who's in charge of you

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know the Imperial war machine you know

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these three bonecrushers like yeah very

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frightening men who are running the

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country right now and it literally is

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back to Imperial Rome I mean people have

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always made those comparisons those

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metaphors know this is the Roman

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Imperial ARP yeah you know this is guys

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we're really into like Roman Empire

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role-playing games you know let's do

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this for real

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right so yeah so I think really summing

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up I mean what we really saw is I think

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we just saw it was a real bomb dropped

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in the middle of Washington so to speak

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with the DNC hacks and the Podesta

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emails and everyone was just scrambling

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around you know first of all trying to

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protect themselves they're probably a

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lawyer up but I think that they were

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really trying to figure out like how do

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we respond to this this is really bad

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this is serious what do we do here and I

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think you know I don't want to offend

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any a piece of gate people per se but I

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think whole pizza gate thing kind of

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gave them air cover it's sort of steered

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attention away from what was really

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going on and what was really being said

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in those emails I mean yeah I think

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that's fair because the pedophile thing

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has been a part of conspiracy culture

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forever that the elite abused children

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it really isn't a secret at this point

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it doesn't seem but Washington yeah oh

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right it's systemic yeah and the pizza

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gate thing it really did just take all

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of that wrap it in a little package and

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put it over on the side and then they

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send in that guy with the gun and then

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that's the story and now everybody's

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like really hush-hush about pedophilia

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because you don't know if you set

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somebody off some crazy guy might go in

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and start shooting and that's so

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irresponsible to even

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talking about so I agree with you they

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definitely took it and spun it off and

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kind of wash their hands of it and put

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it over there and that's how they get

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out of all this stuff whenever people

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start to see the breadcrumbs yeah

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there's a mess of it you know and

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everyone is afraid that some guy with an

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IMDB page is going to you know storm

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into their restaurant know or whatever I

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mean or people are they're gonna I don't

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know inspire that it's that's a topic

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for another discussion it's all

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craziness but again it's guys who are

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like really into the pizza gate thing

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you know I don't realize who they're

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playing with they don't realize the

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playing field are on they're not playing

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with rival bloggers or arrival YouTube

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producers you're dealing with the people

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who bomb countries so you better get all

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your information squared away before you

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start [\h__\h] with those guys right man

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and you also made an interesting point

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about the recent NFL dust-up that it too

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seems like it's in that nexus of a

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blatant military recruitment campaign a

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patriotism play seems to fit right in

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with the whole truck motif yeah it's

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interesting because the whole idea of

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the NFL player is standing for the

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national anthem started back in 2009 and

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it was basically an initiative taken by

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the Department of Defense and the

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National Guard and as basically a

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recruitment tool to get people who go to

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football games particularly younger

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people obviously younger people to sign

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up for the military you know it's really

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part of a recruitment drive now the

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interesting thing to me about all of

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this is there are a couple things that

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are interesting first of all we have a

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government which is run by generals or

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we have a White House that is run by

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generals and they is this time to poke

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at that hornet's nest and it's the usual

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Trump thing and you know provocation and

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reaction but there's another thing that

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again this is the topic for an entire

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program you can remember starting I

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guess really came to fruition in 2012

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when Madonna puts on this Egyptian Roman

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pagan

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turistic androgynous display you know

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it's just like this ritual and yeah you

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mind just like lights up you know all of

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conspiracy channels just light up like a

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Christmas tree over this that starts you

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see it ramping up around the same time

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that the initiative to have the NFL

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players stand for the national anthem so

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it's very curious to be and very

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interesting to me that these really

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ostentatious Roman Imperial this pagan

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ritual displays start ramping up and

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getting really in your face at the same

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time this military involvement in the

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NFL takes off so III don't think that's

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a coincidence and again this is a topic

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for an entirely different program but I

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mean look at how these things you know

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particularly with the halftime shows

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have really taken off and you see the

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manufactured controversies about them

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controversy about the symbolism with

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Beyonce and and black lives matter but

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really what she was doing was military

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drills with her dancers I mean it's it's

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all this militarism and regimentation

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that we're seeing in conjunction with

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this like really bizarre and flagrant

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ritual paganism hmm it is strange man

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and you're right that could be a whole

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show on its own and I do want to get

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into the the big thing we're gonna talk

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about because it is lengthy and it's

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this siren saga and I've been reading it

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this epic synchronistic web revolving

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around a song to the siren that you've

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been writing about it weaves through

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several musical artists from Jeff

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Buckley and the Cocteau twins all the

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way up to Chris Cornell and Chester

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Bennington and it is a hell of a rod

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with a web of connections and syncs

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involving the siren and water and

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drowning and it is just mind-blowing and

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it's a pretty big story and you refer to

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it as a great case study and I guess I

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would ask you what would you say this is

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a great case study of because sometimes

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it's really hard to get a clear

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picture of what we're seeing even when

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we noticed the connections like what

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sort of perspective or world use is a

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story like this work to validate so in

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other words what the hell is Crispin

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ranting on about for five months

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well to be honest with you it's been

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something that I've been trying to wrap

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my head around because I didn't expect

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to be working on this I didn't expect

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these symbols to show up and I didn't

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expect him to show up the way they did

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basically you know what I would sum it

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up as the elevator pitch here is that

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this is the apocalypse the siren is the

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[\h__\h] Babylon and the song to the siren

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is a prophecy of death that's pretty

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much it in a nutshell you know it's a

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lot more complicated than that but

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that's basically what we're looking at

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right as strange as that sounds it's

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taken me five months to sort of sum

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eight all this because you know when

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you're in the middle of it it's hard to

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get perspective on it but that's pretty

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much what we're looking at right on yeah

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I'm you know as a guy who gets kind of

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icky feelings around religion it is kind

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of frustrating but interesting to see

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that basically everything seems to be

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coming to that like all the roads lead

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to the elite have some type of hidden

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religion I don't even know if you can

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really put a name on exactly what it is

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it seems to be pieced together from

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several different things but they've got

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some religion and they're very obsessed

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with making it manifest or running

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cycles and programs that speak to it I

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guess yeah and the siren is just it's an

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incarnation of one of the oldest gods

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that we have in history and that's a

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Nana Lu Sumerian goddess of sex and love

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and war who is very central in the

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formation of what is called the Akkadian

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Empire under a guy we've talked about

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before which is Sargon the great so this

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goes all the way back this goes all the

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way back to what a lot of people see is

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the dawn of civilization and culminates

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with Ishtar and the Babylonian Empire

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and I really see so many footprints of

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this babylon worshiped out there i mean

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there's no other way i can really put it

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you know you showed me that citadel

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shopping center which is basically a

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sumerian temple design for an outlet

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mall which is just incredibly bizarre

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and strange and of course we have the

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babylon gate in the backyard of the old

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masonic temple where they have the

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oscars every year it's kind of thing we

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these things just pop up over and over

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again and your natural inclination

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towards skepticism and disbelief just

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kind of has to crumble away because we

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see the same motifs being hit on the

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head over and over again and you just

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have to think at some point well this

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means something to somebody they're not

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going through all this trouble it's a

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joke that trying to play on us this is

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real and the siren which is now the most

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ubiquitous corporate symbol in the world

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or one of them it's becoming one of them

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through its association with stark

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Stargate it does have an association

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with Stargate but its association with

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Starbucks I mean you know we're seeing

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this everywhere and this is how these

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things happen you are methodically

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indoctrinated or initiated into these

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symbols and icons and of course we have

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mermaid mania and where mermaids are

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just everywhere all the time

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there are actually four Little Mermaid

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movies in production right now there's a

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Little Mermaid ballet this is series

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coming up called siren on Disney yeah

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it's just everywhere it's everywhere you

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look all the time there's a mermaid

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parade in Brooklyn I mean unbelievable

520
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it's like nothing I've ever seen but

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this is how these things become

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dominance how they come archetypal

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dominance and what we are seeing now is

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the rise of an archetypal dominant in

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the siring which despite what you might

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see in the media you know with Little

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Mermaid and stuff is actually a very

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dangerous and unpleasant motif mermaids

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were not Ariel they were creatures who

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lured sailors to their deaths and then

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ate them I mean that's what they were

532
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that's what we're talking about and the

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consort of this and this ties into the

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whole idea of the shepherd-boy consort

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that has accompanied all the various

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permutations of this god s is this evil

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clown dominant that we're also seeing

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rising concurrently you know we're also

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seeing rising with the runaway success

540
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of this movie it which is just drenched

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in water and water symbolism so

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obviously a tie-in here and what I would

543
00:22:17,730 --> 00:22:14,800
point to as the origin of that is that

544
00:22:20,790 --> 00:22:17,740
the shepherd-boy consort who died went

545
00:22:23,130 --> 00:22:20,800
to hell and was reborn was the source of

546
00:22:25,830 --> 00:22:23,140
April Fool's Day there was a Roman

547
00:22:27,690 --> 00:22:25,840
holiday called the hilarya where these

548
00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:27,700
women would celebrate his resurrection

549
00:22:34,170 --> 00:22:31,690
and and that is really the source where

550
00:22:37,620 --> 00:22:34,180
you see the fool and the Tarot all this

551
00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:37,630
fool clown symbolism you know really

552
00:22:42,180 --> 00:22:40,210
kind of ties back to that mmm-hmm yeah

553
00:22:44,700 --> 00:22:42,190
that is such an interesting angle to and

554
00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:44,710
of course to really talk about this

555
00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:47,050
particular story of Jeff and Tim Buckley

556
00:22:52,290 --> 00:22:50,170
and the Cocteau twins we really do have

557
00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:52,300
to kind of chisel it down to just the

558
00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:53,770
core story because it has so many

559
00:22:58,830 --> 00:22:55,570
tangents but one of those tangents is

560
00:23:00,480 --> 00:22:58,840
Heath Ledger who played the Joker based

561
00:23:01,740 --> 00:23:00,490
off the Killing Joke Killing Joke was

562
00:23:04,290 --> 00:23:01,750
also a band and there's connections

563
00:23:07,470 --> 00:23:04,300
there as well and it does seem like in

564
00:23:09,990 --> 00:23:07,480
this core story we're talking about some

565
00:23:11,940 --> 00:23:10,000
kind of entity the song of the siren

566
00:23:14,850 --> 00:23:11,950
being some type of spell or having some

567
00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:14,860
type of power but as you put it in your

568
00:23:20,390 --> 00:23:17,290
blogs it seems to have over the course

569
00:23:22,350 --> 00:23:20,400
of this story claimed a few trophies

570
00:23:24,060 --> 00:23:22,360
yeah it seems to be running around

571
00:23:26,970 --> 00:23:24,070
collecting them which is really kind of

572
00:23:30,570 --> 00:23:26,980
upsetting this all started for me when

573
00:23:31,740 --> 00:23:30,580
Chris Cornell died and my first post on

574
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:31,750
it I was just kind of talking about

575
00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:34,210
depression and opioid withdrawal and

576
00:23:38,970 --> 00:23:36,610
things like that I wasn't really looking

577
00:23:41,610 --> 00:23:38,980
at this at all I was just looking at his

578
00:23:42,990 --> 00:23:41,620
death my my feelings on that have

579
00:23:44,700 --> 00:23:43,000
evolved I mean I don't think he was

580
00:23:46,170 --> 00:23:44,710
murdered by the Illuminati but you know

581
00:23:47,110 --> 00:23:46,180
my feelings on his death have evolved

582
00:23:49,419 --> 00:23:47,120
from

583
00:23:51,039 --> 00:23:49,429
the post that I originally did that I

584
00:23:53,409 --> 00:23:51,049
wrote on this but that's the beauty of a

585
00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:53,419
blog is that it's charting sort of an

586
00:23:57,489 --> 00:23:55,850
evolution of thought but the Chris

587
00:23:59,830 --> 00:23:57,499
Cornell stuff I wasn't really processing

588
00:24:03,820 --> 00:23:59,840
until I found out that he was really

589
00:24:07,180 --> 00:24:03,830
really really close to Jeff Buckley so

590
00:24:10,180 --> 00:24:07,190
much so that he had become his executor

591
00:24:12,879 --> 00:24:10,190
almost I mean he was producing and

592
00:24:16,149 --> 00:24:12,889
managing all of Jeff Buckley's reissues

593
00:24:18,190 --> 00:24:16,159
and I thought okay that's the signal

594
00:24:21,180 --> 00:24:18,200
that's that's what really kind of

595
00:24:26,100 --> 00:24:24,000
just to show you how this all evolved I

596
00:24:28,110 --> 00:24:26,110
found that out and then I did some

597
00:24:32,370 --> 00:24:28,120
digging and I found out that exactly

598
00:24:36,300 --> 00:24:32,380
where he died was the setting for an old

599
00:24:39,470 --> 00:24:36,310
Indian Native American legend about a

600
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:39,480
siren-like figure who lures this

601
00:24:45,660 --> 00:24:42,490
mythical figure called the keeper to his

602
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:45,670
death and Chris Cornell had a single

603
00:24:49,470 --> 00:24:47,530
called the keeper where he sings I am

604
00:24:52,650 --> 00:24:49,480
the keeper I am the keeper and it's just

605
00:24:55,410 --> 00:24:52,660
like whoa stop wait a minute what is

606
00:24:58,170 --> 00:24:55,420
this and then you find out that right

607
00:25:00,840 --> 00:24:58,180
across the street practically from where

608
00:25:02,130 --> 00:25:00,850
he died at the MGM Grand Hotel it should

609
00:25:03,930 --> 00:25:02,140
be opening right about now they're

610
00:25:07,610 --> 00:25:03,940
opening what's called the siren Hotel

611
00:25:11,550 --> 00:25:07,620
and you just let go okay here we are

612
00:25:14,130 --> 00:25:11,560
let it rip I mean and it just goes on

613
00:25:17,430 --> 00:25:14,140
from there so finding out that he had

614
00:25:19,770 --> 00:25:17,440
died around you know at that time it was

615
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:19,780
getting close to the 20th anniversary of

616
00:25:24,390 --> 00:25:21,610
Jeff Buckley's drowning death in Memphis

617
00:25:27,570 --> 00:25:24,400
and of course we have the Memphis PD I

618
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:27,580
mean he literally died right beneath the

619
00:25:33,060 --> 00:25:30,250
Memphis Pyramid is that big giant

620
00:25:35,490 --> 00:25:33,070
pyramid reproduction on the Wolf River

621
00:25:36,990 --> 00:25:35,500
in Memphis that's now on by Bass Pro

622
00:25:39,570 --> 00:25:37,000
Shops I mean that's literally what Jeff

623
00:25:41,610 --> 00:25:39,580
Buckley died and it just goes on from

624
00:25:43,410 --> 00:25:41,620
there and it goes on in such a way that

625
00:25:47,250 --> 00:25:43,420
I could never encapsulate it all in a

626
00:25:49,170 --> 00:25:47,260
podcast it's so huge and in tendrils

627
00:25:51,090 --> 00:25:49,180
just seem to run everywhere and then you

628
00:25:53,580 --> 00:25:51,100
know I mean we're talking about Chris

629
00:25:56,220 --> 00:25:53,590
Cornell's death which was a huge news

630
00:25:57,510 --> 00:25:56,230
story I mean everywhere all across the

631
00:26:00,180 --> 00:25:57,520
mainstream and then chester bennington

632
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:00,190
step on top of that I mean this was huge

633
00:26:05,700 --> 00:26:03,010
so this is how these archetypal

634
00:26:08,220 --> 00:26:05,710
dominance choose to reinsert themselves

635
00:26:12,150 --> 00:26:08,230
into the mainstream culture through

636
00:26:13,950 --> 00:26:12,160
these kind of events and of course Chris

637
00:26:16,140 --> 00:26:13,960
Cornell's death coincided with the

638
00:26:19,260 --> 00:26:16,150
premiere of Twin Peaks which also has a

639
00:26:20,820 --> 00:26:19,270
huge tie-in to the song to the siren and

640
00:26:24,870 --> 00:26:20,830
Elizabeth Fraser and the Cocteau twins

641
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:24,880
and on and on and on so it's literally

642
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:26,770
something we could just do like a week

643
00:26:32,750 --> 00:26:29,170
of podcasts on but basically what we're

644
00:26:40,210 --> 00:26:35,840
a spell a magical spell that starts off

645
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:40,220
with this song but there's a huge

646
00:26:45,140 --> 00:26:42,330
presence of mind control

647
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:45,150
you're not only suggestive and implied

648
00:26:52,490 --> 00:26:49,530
but explicit mind control MKULTRA all

649
00:26:56,150 --> 00:26:52,500
that kind of stuff but this ties in to

650
00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:56,160
my personal views on MKULTRA that things

651
00:27:00,620 --> 00:26:57,570
that we associate maybe more with

652
00:27:02,870 --> 00:27:00,630
artichoke and Bluebird and MK search and

653
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:02,880
on and on and on you know they were

654
00:27:07,130 --> 00:27:05,610
basically spent 25 years and a whole ton

655
00:27:09,230 --> 00:27:07,140
of the government's money pretending

656
00:27:12,350 --> 00:27:09,240
that they were looking for technology

657
00:27:15,100 --> 00:27:12,360
that they already knew I mean a thousand

658
00:27:18,260 --> 00:27:15,110
years ago the assassins had perfected

659
00:27:20,390 --> 00:27:18,270
mind control and mind control assassins

660
00:27:23,300 --> 00:27:20,400
this is not a secret they didn't need to

661
00:27:25,910 --> 00:27:23,310
do this and then as far as the

662
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:25,920
interrogation aspect of this people have

663
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:28,650
talked about that yeah I mean this was

664
00:27:34,430 --> 00:27:30,450
all stuff that the Nazis were doing all

665
00:27:36,410 --> 00:27:34,440
the time during World War two so MKULTRA

666
00:27:37,610 --> 00:27:36,420
is something else and I'll tell you

667
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:37,620
where I'm going with this because I'm

668
00:27:41,810 --> 00:27:40,170
going to be posting on this and the post

669
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:41,820
will go up probably before this podcast

670
00:27:48,890 --> 00:27:45,890
goes up but MKULTRA really starts with

671
00:27:52,030 --> 00:27:48,900
Allen Dulles in Switzerland in Bern

672
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:52,040
Switzerland spending every single day

673
00:27:58,550 --> 00:27:56,490
talking to Carl Jung and Carl Jung was

674
00:28:01,780 --> 00:27:58,560
also treating Allen Dulles as mistress

675
00:28:04,310 --> 00:28:01,790
and then we also of course have Sandoz

676
00:28:05,990 --> 00:28:04,320
Albert Hoffman and the bicycle arriving

677
00:28:09,470 --> 00:28:06,000
blah blah blah blah blah see I don't

678
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:09,480
think that these people were just

679
00:28:13,910 --> 00:28:11,610
worried about mind control and mind

680
00:28:17,030 --> 00:28:13,920
control assassins and interrogation I

681
00:28:20,570 --> 00:28:17,040
think that their ambitions were far

682
00:28:23,150 --> 00:28:20,580
grander and more disturbing and just

683
00:28:25,130 --> 00:28:23,160
more all-encompassing than that and I've

684
00:28:27,500 --> 00:28:25,140
always thought that you know because we

685
00:28:30,110 --> 00:28:27,510
have the tie-ins to Stargate and remote

686
00:28:33,500 --> 00:28:30,120
viewing and on and on and on I really

687
00:28:37,130 --> 00:28:33,510
think that this was about the recreation

688
00:28:39,110 --> 00:28:37,140
of the world hmm

689
00:28:42,230 --> 00:28:39,120
literally and starting from the ground

690
00:28:43,340 --> 00:28:42,240
up starting with the mind and maybe a

691
00:28:45,380 --> 00:28:43,350
lot of people might think that's a

692
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:45,390
little you know over the top but that's

693
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:46,650
what I honestly believe

694
00:28:52,010 --> 00:28:50,010
well I'm with you man and we will get to

695
00:28:54,140 --> 00:28:52,020
how that happens basically starting with

696
00:28:55,730 --> 00:28:54,150
that Millennium Dome show in the way it

697
00:28:58,040 --> 00:28:55,740
connects to the larger song of the

698
00:29:00,470 --> 00:28:58,050
sirens story but if we are going to have

699
00:29:03,860 --> 00:29:00,480
the song itself be the core be the

700
00:29:06,380 --> 00:29:03,870
connective tissue this song perhaps as a

701
00:29:08,900 --> 00:29:06,390
spell or a totem or a vessel for some

702
00:29:12,020 --> 00:29:08,910
entity to extract some influence where

703
00:29:15,020 --> 00:29:12,030
does the song story start a fairly weird

704
00:29:17,660 --> 00:29:15,030
place right yeah extremely weird place

705
00:29:20,570 --> 00:29:17,670
it starts with the final episode of the

706
00:29:21,770 --> 00:29:20,580
Monkees television show and in case some

707
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:21,780
of your listeners might be too young to

708
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:24,210
remember this The Monkees was a knockoff

709
00:29:30,110 --> 00:29:26,610
of the beatles created for network

710
00:29:32,090 --> 00:29:30,120
television wildly popular insanely

711
00:29:34,460 --> 00:29:32,100
popular i mean it was a point where

712
00:29:37,970 --> 00:29:34,470
every single they were putting out went

713
00:29:40,430 --> 00:29:37,980
right into the top ten big big deal this

714
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:40,440
was of course at the end of their run

715
00:29:44,060 --> 00:29:42,210
you know wouldn't only maybe like twenty

716
00:29:47,060 --> 00:29:44,070
million people watching it rather than

717
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:47,070
forty final episode and what is it about

718
00:29:52,730 --> 00:29:49,890
oh hey it's about MKULTRA what a

719
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:52,740
surprise it's literally what it's about

720
00:29:59,960 --> 00:29:56,370
it's about this mad scientist who is

721
00:30:02,780 --> 00:29:59,970
using television to control the minds

722
00:30:05,630 --> 00:30:02,790
and put people in trances and it's like

723
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:05,640
but he's doing so using alien technology

724
00:30:10,610 --> 00:30:08,010
he actually kidnaps an alien who's

725
00:30:13,910 --> 00:30:10,620
crashed his flying saucer of course of

726
00:30:15,410 --> 00:30:13,920
course I mean this is like hmm at least

727
00:30:17,419 --> 00:30:15,420
ten years before anybody was talking

728
00:30:19,100 --> 00:30:17,429
about Roswell they're talking about this

729
00:30:24,260 --> 00:30:19,110
okay gee what's that all about

730
00:30:27,020 --> 00:30:24,270
so mind-control kidnapped alien you know

731
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:27,030
reverse engineered alien technology it's

732
00:30:31,430 --> 00:30:29,730
like are you kidding me and then you

733
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:31,440
know the monkeys defeat all this and

734
00:30:34,390 --> 00:30:32,970
they feed the mad scientist and his

735
00:30:37,690 --> 00:30:34,400
MKULTRA program with the

736
00:30:39,610 --> 00:30:37,700
all-encompassing power of marijuana

737
00:30:41,810 --> 00:30:39,620
Cheers

738
00:30:42,500 --> 00:30:41,820
which they call Frodo's that was their

739
00:30:44,540 --> 00:30:42,510
code name

740
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:44,550
when they're on set doing the show their

741
00:30:49,910 --> 00:30:46,410
code name for marijuana was frota s--

742
00:30:50,510 --> 00:30:49,920
huh so the episode is called the froude

743
00:30:52,549 --> 00:30:50,520
escaper

744
00:30:54,740 --> 00:30:52,559
the throat is caper and interesting

745
00:30:56,750 --> 00:30:54,750
enough you know you have the letters for

746
00:31:00,010 --> 00:30:56,760
Frasier in there oh just a coincidence

747
00:31:02,620 --> 00:31:00,020
okay so anyway at the

748
00:31:05,290 --> 00:31:02,630
into this episode this bizarre episode

749
00:31:07,690 --> 00:31:05,300
which is like something out of cosmic

750
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:07,700
trigger or something Tim Buckley who was

751
00:31:13,450 --> 00:31:10,370
a popular folk singer in Los Angeles

752
00:31:15,190 --> 00:31:13,460
never really made it big but Micky

753
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:15,200
Dolenz of the Monkees thought this would

754
00:31:20,380 --> 00:31:17,090
be a great place for him to make us

755
00:31:22,990 --> 00:31:20,390
debut and he makes his debut with the

756
00:31:24,490 --> 00:31:23,000
song song to the siren which actually no

757
00:31:26,770 --> 00:31:24,500
one had ever heard before except for the

758
00:31:28,780 --> 00:31:26,780
key in that the people in his band so he

759
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:28,790
premieres the song at the end of this

760
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:33,170
whole extravaganza and it's this gorge

761
00:31:38,500 --> 00:31:35,810
which is based on the classical Greek

762
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:38,510
myth of the siren which we read about in

763
00:31:44,410 --> 00:31:41,570
the Odyssey and it's basically a love

764
00:31:46,300 --> 00:31:44,420
story between him and the siren but

765
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:46,310
she's luring him to his death and he

766
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:47,930
knows that he's being lured to his death

767
00:31:50,980 --> 00:31:49,250
that he doesn't care I mean that's

768
00:31:53,190 --> 00:31:50,990
basically the song is about it's about

769
00:31:55,570 --> 00:31:53,200
him going through all these stages of

770
00:31:59,320 --> 00:31:55,580
confusion about you know I know this

771
00:32:02,590 --> 00:31:59,330
siren is going to kill me do I fall

772
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:02,600
under the spell and of course he does

773
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:05,210
and you know a few years later he dies

774
00:32:11,290 --> 00:32:08,690
of a heroin overdose so it's like Oh God

775
00:32:12,730 --> 00:32:11,300
okay well that's interesting but that's

776
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:12,740
like how it all starts

777
00:32:17,020 --> 00:32:15,290
you know that's the birth so it goes on

778
00:32:18,700 --> 00:32:17,030
from there I mean these are these are

779
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:18,710
the themes that we're looking at and it

780
00:32:23,470 --> 00:32:21,770
goes on from there right and it is kind

781
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:23,480
of a lot to take in like you've been

782
00:32:27,220 --> 00:32:25,370
saying when I first started reading it I

783
00:32:28,690 --> 00:32:27,230
was kind of like well where is he going

784
00:32:30,550 --> 00:32:28,700
with this I don't know any of these

785
00:32:32,380 --> 00:32:30,560
bands I don't know who the hell Tim or

786
00:32:35,770 --> 00:32:32,390
Jeff Buckley are I'm just unfamiliar

787
00:32:38,290 --> 00:32:35,780
with all the characters but once you

788
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:38,300
really get into it it is so amazing

789
00:32:42,430 --> 00:32:40,130
really so we have Tim Buckley this folk

790
00:32:46,090 --> 00:32:42,440
singer he sings the song to the siren on

791
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:46,100
TV and then the next stage would be it

792
00:32:50,260 --> 00:32:48,530
being covered by Elizabeth Fraser of the

793
00:32:52,150 --> 00:32:50,270
Cocteau twins right that's kind of the

794
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:52,160
she's really one of the most central

795
00:32:58,930 --> 00:32:54,170
figures in the whole story

796
00:33:01,300 --> 00:32:58,940
yeah she seems to be I always say hope

797
00:33:02,740 --> 00:33:01,310
the gods never notice you hope the

798
00:33:04,750 --> 00:33:02,750
spirits never noticed you hope they

799
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:04,760
never choose you to express themselves

800
00:33:09,940 --> 00:33:07,730
through it never ends well you know if

801
00:33:12,580 --> 00:33:09,950
you read the Bible the prophets really

802
00:33:14,530 --> 00:33:12,590
don't have very happy lives you know

803
00:33:16,210 --> 00:33:14,540
it's just you don't want the gods to

804
00:33:19,210 --> 00:33:16,220
notice you I mean hide from them like

805
00:33:21,610 --> 00:33:19,220
just don't let them notice you noticing

806
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:21,620
them you know just to back it up she's a

807
00:33:27,670 --> 00:33:24,530
woman with a very troubled upbringing

808
00:33:29,290 --> 00:33:27,680
very troubled past she had several

809
00:33:32,650 --> 00:33:29,300
nervous breakdowns later on in her

810
00:33:34,870 --> 00:33:32,660
career she had come to believe that she

811
00:33:38,470 --> 00:33:34,880
had been sexually molested by her father

812
00:33:40,210 --> 00:33:38,480
and by her brother-in-law and she was

813
00:33:43,710 --> 00:33:40,220
eventually I mean she's part of a large

814
00:33:47,410 --> 00:33:43,720
Catholic family in a very grim

815
00:33:49,630 --> 00:33:47,420
industrial suburb in Scotland she gets

816
00:33:53,290 --> 00:33:49,640
into the punk scene and she's thrown out

817
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:53,300
of the house at 16 and she's very very

818
00:33:57,790 --> 00:33:56,090
reticent to it reveal much about her

819
00:33:59,830 --> 00:33:57,800
background there's very little known

820
00:34:01,750 --> 00:33:59,840
about her I mean we just we have no

821
00:34:05,620 --> 00:34:01,760
information except for these snippets

822
00:34:11,110 --> 00:34:05,630
from interviews so she's a troubled girl

823
00:34:13,930 --> 00:34:11,120
sexually abused into drugs apparently is

824
00:34:15,639 --> 00:34:13,940
quite violent which is all very funny

825
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:15,649
when you see her videos because you get

826
00:34:19,090 --> 00:34:17,690
no sense of that but this shows you that

827
00:34:22,330 --> 00:34:19,100
we're looking at a case study and

828
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:22,340
dissociation had been seen as sort of a

829
00:34:28,510 --> 00:34:26,090
bully in school just falls off the map

830
00:34:33,130 --> 00:34:28,520
falls off the radar for a while until

831
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:33,140
she appears in this post-punk band

832
00:34:38,980 --> 00:34:35,810
called the Cocteau twins kind of like a

833
00:34:40,870 --> 00:34:38,990
post Punk goth noise I mean they're very

834
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:40,880
they're early material is very abrasive

835
00:34:46,810 --> 00:34:44,210
it's very dark and they're instantly

836
00:34:49,060 --> 00:34:46,820
signed up by a record label in London

837
00:34:49,419 --> 00:34:49,070
and they instantly become the toast of

838
00:34:52,750 --> 00:34:49,429
the town

839
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:52,760
the BBC is having them do concerts on

840
00:34:57,580 --> 00:34:54,970
Sunday night and Saturday night I mean

841
00:34:59,560 --> 00:34:57,590
it's like no other

842
00:35:01,390 --> 00:34:59,570
showbiz story you've ever heard of where

843
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:01,400
they make a demo in their bedroom

844
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:03,050
literally and all of a sudden they're

845
00:35:07,570 --> 00:35:04,970
the toast of the town so it's a very

846
00:35:09,940 --> 00:35:07,580
strange story but here's the thing and

847
00:35:12,070 --> 00:35:09,950
let's get back to MKULTRA again not a

848
00:35:15,940 --> 00:35:12,080
lot of people realize this but MKULTRA

849
00:35:18,340 --> 00:35:15,950
didn't really stop in Scotland to the UK

850
00:35:21,370 --> 00:35:18,350
there's a lot of information that it

851
00:35:23,260 --> 00:35:21,380
went on probably into the 80s at least

852
00:35:23,950 --> 00:35:23,270
into the early 80s particularly in

853
00:35:27,250 --> 00:35:23,960
Scotland

854
00:35:29,740 --> 00:35:27,260
Ewen Cameron who also studied under

855
00:35:32,710 --> 00:35:29,750
Young at the Bergholz II in Switzerland

856
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:32,720
you know so we have that MKULTRA allen

857
00:35:37,890 --> 00:35:35,130
dulles connection again

858
00:35:39,359 --> 00:35:37,900
you and Cameron basically lived right up

859
00:35:41,819 --> 00:35:39,369
the street from Elizabeth Frasier I mean

860
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:41,829
they lived in the same County there were

861
00:35:46,740 --> 00:35:43,930
20 minutes away from each other but you

862
00:35:50,910 --> 00:35:46,750
and Cameron was you know he died in 1969

863
00:35:55,940 --> 00:35:50,920
but he was also known to have used GART

864
00:36:01,740 --> 00:35:55,950
Naval Hospital Lenox Castle hospital for

865
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:01,750
his particularly brutal form of Repat

866
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:03,490
earning as he called it which was

867
00:36:08,670 --> 00:36:05,770
basically instilling a dissociative

868
00:36:10,470 --> 00:36:08,680
state in very vulnerable people

869
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:10,480
particularly women he seemed to be

870
00:36:13,799 --> 00:36:11,890
particularly interested in women

871
00:36:16,559 --> 00:36:13,809
particularly interested in young women

872
00:36:19,319 --> 00:36:16,569
there is a lot of anecdotal and

873
00:36:22,530 --> 00:36:19,329
otherwise information that the young

874
00:36:24,510 --> 00:36:22,540
girls at the Montreal operation were

875
00:36:27,690 --> 00:36:24,520
being sexually abused at the same time

876
00:36:29,579 --> 00:36:27,700
they were being tortured but you know he

877
00:36:34,349 --> 00:36:29,589
was after something he was not after

878
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:34,359
mind control he was after I mean how do

879
00:36:37,740 --> 00:36:35,170
I put this

880
00:36:40,349 --> 00:36:37,750
he's after what I believe personally

881
00:36:44,250 --> 00:36:40,359
what you and Cameron is actually after

882
00:36:46,710 --> 00:36:44,260
is he's after breaking through to the

883
00:36:49,650 --> 00:36:46,720
other side like I honestly believe that

884
00:36:51,089 --> 00:36:49,660
and if you look this is not something

885
00:36:54,030 --> 00:36:51,099
that's popped I mean go back to the

886
00:36:57,450 --> 00:36:54,040
Victorian area we have all these stories

887
00:36:59,880 --> 00:36:57,460
about traumatized children particularly

888
00:37:02,220 --> 00:36:59,890
traumatized girls finding themselves

889
00:37:05,819 --> 00:37:02,230
wandering into another dimension you

890
00:37:07,020 --> 00:37:05,829
know Alice in Wonderland Peter Pan you

891
00:37:10,710 --> 00:37:07,030
know later we have Wizard of Oz

892
00:37:13,260 --> 00:37:10,720
Chronicles and Anya stranger things you

893
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:13,270
know a I mean this you know fringe I

894
00:37:17,599 --> 00:37:14,890
mean this just pops up over and over

895
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:17,609
again and if you really read the

896
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:20,650
information about you and Cameron's

897
00:37:25,289 --> 00:37:22,930
operation you go this is not mind

898
00:37:26,819 --> 00:37:25,299
control this is not I mean this is like

899
00:37:28,890 --> 00:37:26,829
this is crazy

900
00:37:31,170 --> 00:37:28,900
but let me tell you what it also

901
00:37:33,870 --> 00:37:31,180
reminded me of and what really put me on

902
00:37:37,530 --> 00:37:33,880
this is that it reminds me of rites of

903
00:37:40,170 --> 00:37:37,540
passage of shamanic initiation see I

904
00:37:42,299 --> 00:37:40,180
have a little saying that goes shamanic

905
00:37:44,730 --> 00:37:42,309
initiation is just a fancy way of saying

906
00:37:47,339 --> 00:37:44,740
torturing children because that's how

907
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:47,349
shamans throughout history and

908
00:37:52,390 --> 00:37:48,610
throughout various cultures

909
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:52,400
been initiated by being tortured

910
00:37:58,150 --> 00:37:55,010
poisoned

911
00:38:00,490 --> 00:37:58,160
raped all sorts of horrible things

912
00:38:04,569 --> 00:38:00,500
happening and you know of course for our

913
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:04,579
purposes the most troubling example of

914
00:38:12,370 --> 00:38:06,890
this not necessarily shamanic but

915
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:12,380
certainly transformative initiation is

916
00:38:18,849 --> 00:38:16,130
of course sparta where young boys were

917
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:18,859
just not only were they just sex toys

918
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:23,930
for these huge monster soldiers they

919
00:38:29,140 --> 00:38:26,450
were also you know tortured I mean

920
00:38:30,550 --> 00:38:29,150
literally tortured all the time and you

921
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:30,560
know it's just horrific what you when

922
00:38:34,810 --> 00:38:32,930
you read about you see a movie like 300

923
00:38:37,240 --> 00:38:34,820
you go oh look at those heroic requires

924
00:38:40,329 --> 00:38:37,250
no that's not what sparked it was really

925
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:40,339
about it was horrible it was like pizza

926
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:42,530
gate times a billion I mean it was crazy

927
00:38:48,730 --> 00:38:45,290
so yeah so that's what we're seeing I

928
00:38:52,359 --> 00:38:48,740
mean I have no definitive evidence that

929
00:38:54,970 --> 00:38:52,369
Elizabeth Fraser you know fell into one

930
00:38:57,069 --> 00:38:54,980
of these still operating MKULTRA

931
00:38:59,890 --> 00:38:57,079
programs that were going on in her

932
00:39:02,859 --> 00:38:59,900
neighborhood at that time but you know I

933
00:39:05,109 --> 00:39:02,869
also know that she exhibited signs of

934
00:39:09,130 --> 00:39:05,119
extreme dissociation and and kind of

935
00:39:11,559 --> 00:39:09,140
made dissociation her art which we see a

936
00:39:14,980 --> 00:39:11,569
lot with people who are survivors of

937
00:39:16,390 --> 00:39:14,990
this kind of abuse right so many pop

938
00:39:19,420 --> 00:39:16,400
stars have done the split personality

939
00:39:21,700 --> 00:39:19,430
thing yeah but she did for real I mean

940
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:21,710
that's like they're going oh I want to

941
00:39:25,900 --> 00:39:23,450
do Bowie and Ziggy Stardust

942
00:39:28,059 --> 00:39:25,910
you know like Lady Gaga beyoncé and blah

943
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:28,069
blah blah blah I mean you know it

944
00:39:35,559 --> 00:39:29,930
doesn't interest me because it's not

945
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:35,569
real it's opposed it's a prefab it's

946
00:39:39,150 --> 00:39:37,010
almost like one of the boxes you have to

947
00:39:42,010 --> 00:39:39,160
tick off to be a pop star these days

948
00:39:44,349 --> 00:39:42,020
right it's like the commercialization of

949
00:39:47,079 --> 00:39:44,359
what for some people was very real

950
00:39:49,050 --> 00:39:47,089
trauma and very real torture yes yes

951
00:39:52,580 --> 00:39:49,060
absolutely so

952
00:39:55,050 --> 00:39:52,590
we know that Elizabeth Fraser spent

953
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:55,060
three at least three stints in the

954
00:39:58,200 --> 00:39:56,770
trauma ward you know I don't mean to

955
00:40:00,210 --> 00:39:58,210
laugh at that but it just goes to show

956
00:40:02,460 --> 00:40:00,220
you that this is real that this isn't

957
00:40:05,130 --> 00:40:02,470
like what her publicist told us she

958
00:40:08,550 --> 00:40:05,140
should be doing and she also underwent

959
00:40:11,540 --> 00:40:08,560
like a series of very radical and

960
00:40:13,530 --> 00:40:11,550
extreme kind of transformations

961
00:40:15,030 --> 00:40:13,540
particularly early on a career which

962
00:40:16,350 --> 00:40:15,040
she's got like sighs our heads are

963
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:16,360
shaved it's almost like a mohawk and

964
00:40:21,450 --> 00:40:19,210
she's wearing like fishnet stockings and

965
00:40:24,690 --> 00:40:21,460
leather minis and you know she's acting

966
00:40:27,870 --> 00:40:24,700
very provocatively and then she sort of

967
00:40:30,720 --> 00:40:27,880
becomes almost overnight this this

968
00:40:33,750 --> 00:40:30,730
Victorian fantasy this Victorian china

969
00:40:36,270 --> 00:40:33,760
doll and she's presented it you know and

970
00:40:38,550 --> 00:40:36,280
we cheek but the thing is is that okay

971
00:40:40,290 --> 00:40:38,560
so you go oh that stylist it's designers

972
00:40:41,430 --> 00:40:40,300
I mean this is how the music industry

973
00:40:43,380 --> 00:40:41,440
works and we saw the same thing with

974
00:40:47,220 --> 00:40:43,390
Nicki Minaj where she sort of starts off

975
00:40:49,620 --> 00:40:47,230
as this very androgynous kind of street

976
00:40:52,230 --> 00:40:49,630
rapper and then they get to work and

977
00:40:56,010 --> 00:40:52,240
they reinvent her but in this case it

978
00:40:56,850 --> 00:40:56,020
wasn't just that her style and her you

979
00:40:58,770 --> 00:40:56,860
know persona

980
00:41:00,120 --> 00:40:58,780
yeah the look was well let me get back

981
00:41:02,070 --> 00:41:00,130
to that I mean it's not just that like

982
00:41:03,540 --> 00:41:02,080
her look which you know her hair and

983
00:41:05,100 --> 00:41:03,550
makeup was done differently and she was

984
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:05,110
wearing different clothes she literally

985
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:06,370
just looks like an entirely different

986
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:09,370
person and there are several stages and

987
00:41:14,030 --> 00:41:11,050
were like she looks entirely different

988
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:14,040
when you see her on television

989
00:41:18,750 --> 00:41:17,050
performing live and then when you see

990
00:41:20,220 --> 00:41:18,760
her in the song to the siren video it

991
00:41:21,900 --> 00:41:20,230
looks like an entirely different person

992
00:41:24,300 --> 00:41:21,910
and she just goes through these stages

993
00:41:26,070 --> 00:41:24,310
where not only is her hair and her

994
00:41:27,540 --> 00:41:26,080
makeup changing but it's it almost seems

995
00:41:29,910 --> 00:41:27,550
like the structure of her face is

996
00:41:31,050 --> 00:41:29,920
changing and the other bizarre thing I

997
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:31,060
mean this is the thing that really

998
00:41:37,890 --> 00:41:34,090
kicked it all off of me is that her eyes

999
00:41:39,420 --> 00:41:37,900
are just insane I mean not like you know

1000
00:41:41,820 --> 00:41:39,430
you see people with crazy eyes maybe

1001
00:41:43,980 --> 00:41:41,830
stereos people would maybe schizophrenia

1002
00:41:46,170 --> 00:41:43,990
sort of develop this I mean it literally

1003
00:41:48,450 --> 00:41:46,180
looks like she is not human she's not

1004
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:48,460
human you kind of catch glimpses of this

1005
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:50,770
and she's obviously very self-conscious

1006
00:41:54,350 --> 00:41:52,210
about it but you'll just see these

1007
00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:54,360
freeze frames in these videos and you go

1008
00:41:59,370 --> 00:41:57,370
okay that's not a human being that's an

1009
00:42:02,190 --> 00:41:59,380
alien I've never seen anything like this

1010
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:02,200
in my life where somebody just looks

1011
00:42:06,630 --> 00:42:03,490
if you sort of broke it down and you

1012
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:06,640
thought about it go okay well excuse

1013
00:42:13,230 --> 00:42:10,770
eyes and you go that's not a human being

1014
00:42:14,550 --> 00:42:13,240
and you can see this I mean you can go

1015
00:42:15,990 --> 00:42:14,560
on YouTube and see this and you know

1016
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:16,000
I've taken screenshots of its and it's

1017
00:42:20,310 --> 00:42:18,010
just like what the hell are those things

1018
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:20,320
in the middle of her face it did not

1019
00:42:25,290 --> 00:42:22,570
eyes they're like I don't know what the

1020
00:42:26,579 --> 00:42:25,300
hell they are this is one video one of

1021
00:42:29,339 --> 00:42:26,589
the better-known sons having a Las Vegas

1022
00:42:31,430 --> 00:42:29,349
which also plays symbiotically and

1023
00:42:34,620 --> 00:42:31,440
thematically into this whole storyline

1024
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:34,630
her eyes look like they're incandescent

1025
00:42:40,650 --> 00:42:38,010
it's really weird and this is before

1026
00:42:42,660 --> 00:42:40,660
indie music videos were being made with

1027
00:42:44,910 --> 00:42:42,670
like heavy CGI and stuff and you just

1028
00:42:46,470 --> 00:42:44,920
look at these eyes and go why do they

1029
00:42:47,130 --> 00:42:46,480
seem to be giving off light this is

1030
00:42:51,589 --> 00:42:47,140
weird

1031
00:42:54,329 --> 00:42:51,599
so again I mean this is all

1032
00:42:56,309 --> 00:42:54,339
interpretation and maybe personal

1033
00:42:59,009 --> 00:42:56,319
opinion or whatever but it's just like I

1034
00:43:02,399 --> 00:42:59,019
just look and I go what the hell is

1035
00:43:04,289 --> 00:43:02,409
going on that's not that's an ant you

1036
00:43:05,729 --> 00:43:04,299
know what it looks like it looks like

1037
00:43:08,489 --> 00:43:05,739
anybody who's watched the show

1038
00:43:11,309 --> 00:43:08,499
Supernatural when one of the characters

1039
00:43:13,079 --> 00:43:11,319
is possessed by an angel their eyes

1040
00:43:15,059 --> 00:43:13,089
start to glow and they're weird and

1041
00:43:16,169 --> 00:43:15,069
they're kind of white light I mean

1042
00:43:19,289 --> 00:43:16,179
that's what they look like except it's

1043
00:43:21,299 --> 00:43:19,299
real so it's just like maybe this is

1044
00:43:23,519 --> 00:43:21,309
base you know that whole trope is based

1045
00:43:28,559 --> 00:43:23,529
on something real

1046
00:43:31,309 --> 00:43:28,569
right yeah extremely rare but real well

1047
00:43:34,199 --> 00:43:31,319
right and so to get to the story of

1048
00:43:36,899 --> 00:43:34,209
Frasier as some type of vessel for a

1049
00:43:40,529 --> 00:43:36,909
siren type entity and this song being

1050
00:43:42,989 --> 00:43:40,539
some type of spell or totem yeah anyone

1051
00:43:45,329 --> 00:43:42,999
who hasn't heard of the Cocteau twins or

1052
00:43:48,809 --> 00:43:45,339
Frasier do go listen to some stuff

1053
00:43:50,759 --> 00:43:48,819
because her voice is very eerily siren

1054
00:43:53,489 --> 00:43:50,769
like there's a lot of howling a lot of

1055
00:43:56,429 --> 00:43:53,499
wailing and in time she didn't even sing

1056
00:43:59,249 --> 00:43:56,439
in English but you know I guess the

1057
00:44:03,209 --> 00:43:59,259
other aspect we should talk about that's

1058
00:44:06,149 --> 00:44:03,219
very relevant is the death yeah Frasier

1059
00:44:09,569 --> 00:44:06,159
covered Tim Buckley song of the siren

1060
00:44:11,849 --> 00:44:09,579
because that very song prompted his son

1061
00:44:14,039 --> 00:44:11,859
Jeff Buckley another artist to discover

1062
00:44:16,229 --> 00:44:14,049
Elizabeth Fraser and become attracted to

1063
00:44:19,499 --> 00:44:16,239
her they had a very intense romance and

1064
00:44:20,309 --> 00:44:19,509
then the icing on the siren cake given

1065
00:44:25,529 --> 00:44:20,319
the punch line

1066
00:44:28,739 --> 00:44:25,539
mean he drowns not only is he drown but

1067
00:44:30,959 --> 00:44:28,749
he drowns underneath the pyramid in

1068
00:44:33,659 --> 00:44:30,969
Memphis Memphis which is of course named

1069
00:44:36,659 --> 00:44:33,669
after the ancient city strongly

1070
00:44:42,289 --> 00:44:36,669
associated with a cyrus and he also died

1071
00:44:44,909 --> 00:44:42,299
on the eve of this weird secret society

1072
00:44:46,409 --> 00:44:44,919
festival that they have in Memphis where

1073
00:44:49,529 --> 00:44:46,419
they all name themselves you know with a

1074
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:49,539
crew of Osiris with a crew of rah you

1075
00:44:53,189 --> 00:44:50,650
know I mean all this like we're heavy

1076
00:44:57,359 --> 00:44:53,199
Egyptian symbolism he died on the eve of

1077
00:44:58,769 --> 00:44:57,369
that and you just like okay but the

1078
00:45:02,099 --> 00:44:58,779
other interesting thing is that he died

1079
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:02,109
on Garland's day in the UK which was a

1080
00:45:07,349 --> 00:45:05,170
day that offerings were made to preside

1081
00:45:09,299 --> 00:45:07,359
and the implication here is that nearly

1082
00:45:11,010 --> 00:45:09,309
days this is you know human sacrifices

1083
00:45:13,740 --> 00:45:11,020
were made to Poseidon especially when

1084
00:45:15,359 --> 00:45:13,750
you see how garland State plays out the

1085
00:45:17,220 --> 00:45:15,369
interesting thing of course here is that

1086
00:45:21,089 --> 00:45:17,230
the first Cocteau twins album which has

1087
00:45:23,789 --> 00:45:21,099
all kinds of stuff about human sacrifice

1088
00:45:27,329 --> 00:45:23,799
and people drowning in rivers is named

1089
00:45:29,309 --> 00:45:27,339
Garland's so okay like what's this all

1090
00:45:31,319 --> 00:45:29,319
about and of course we have garland

1091
00:45:34,770 --> 00:45:31,329
Briggs and Twin Peaks which also plays

1092
00:45:37,890 --> 00:45:34,780
into this it's just like this can't be

1093
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:37,900
real this can't be happening it's just

1094
00:45:42,390 --> 00:45:39,970
too weird and it's like well people say

1095
00:45:44,099 --> 00:45:42,400
okay well this happens all the time you

1096
00:45:46,829 --> 00:45:44,109
know you're just cherry-picking

1097
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:46,839
things and then you go well show me when

1098
00:45:50,150 --> 00:45:48,490
else it happened like this I mean show

1099
00:45:53,370 --> 00:45:50,160
me how else it plays out like this

1100
00:45:56,690 --> 00:45:53,380
methodically step-by-step like this and

1101
00:45:59,339 --> 00:45:56,700
then they go okay well maybe it doesn't

1102
00:46:01,980 --> 00:45:59,349
right it's like it's like a real-world

1103
00:46:04,650 --> 00:46:01,990
version of the siren motif the structure

1104
00:46:07,230 --> 00:46:04,660
is right there man sings song woman

1105
00:46:09,990 --> 00:46:07,240
cover song man's son falls in love with

1106
00:46:13,349 --> 00:46:10,000
woman and ultimately drowns and in fact

1107
00:46:16,079 --> 00:46:13,359
his drowning story is that he was pulled

1108
00:46:18,059 --> 00:46:16,089
under they say by the wake of a boat but

1109
00:46:20,339 --> 00:46:18,069
that the motif is he was literally

1110
00:46:22,799 --> 00:46:20,349
pulled under the the water and that's

1111
00:46:25,620 --> 00:46:22,809
like the same kind of thing it's just a

1112
00:46:27,569 --> 00:46:25,630
very creepy story when you tie in the

1113
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:27,579
way she sings and that she possibly

1114
00:46:34,109 --> 00:46:29,770
could have been channeling something you

1115
00:46:36,299 --> 00:46:34,119
actually wrote that in a 1984 interview

1116
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:36,309
Fraser herself says that she believes

1117
00:46:39,990 --> 00:46:38,170
she was channeling another force or

1118
00:46:42,630 --> 00:46:40,000
entity and she claimed her music quote

1119
00:46:45,210 --> 00:46:42,640
wrote itself and so this is like where I

1120
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:45,220
wonder what was her awareness in this

1121
00:46:48,510 --> 00:46:47,410
situation like what do you think I mean

1122
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:48,520
a lot of her lyrics were about

1123
00:46:52,799 --> 00:46:51,130
witchcraft weren't they yeah a lot of

1124
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:52,809
the early songs wrote witchcraft and

1125
00:46:57,930 --> 00:46:55,690
another early song on an EP which is all

1126
00:47:00,720 --> 00:46:57,940
about drowning and rivers is called the

1127
00:47:03,089 --> 00:47:00,730
last dies laughing and alas dies

1128
00:47:05,539 --> 00:47:03,099
laughing you know I sort of spell out

1129
00:47:07,589 --> 00:47:05,549
how the symbolism and the lyrics

1130
00:47:10,260 --> 00:47:07,599
basically point to where exactly what

1131
00:47:11,849 --> 00:47:10,270
Jeff Buckley died yeah I mean and this

1132
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:11,859
isn't the only song that does this the

1133
00:47:17,309 --> 00:47:14,650
lyrics in the song show you exactly

1134
00:47:19,010 --> 00:47:17,319
where he's going to die in 16 years from

1135
00:47:21,220 --> 00:47:19,020
when the song was recorded

1136
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:21,230
and the chorus to the song which she

1137
00:47:28,100 --> 00:47:24,450
repeats I don't know a hundred times is

1138
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:28,110
wake takes wake takes a lonely one wake

1139
00:47:32,240 --> 00:47:30,570
takes a lonely one wake takes a lonely

1140
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:32,250
one oh and over again and when you

1141
00:47:35,870 --> 00:47:33,330
listen to the recording this

1142
00:47:38,690 --> 00:47:35,880
she almost sounds like she's in trance I

1143
00:47:40,670 --> 00:47:38,700
mean she does not sound like she does on

1144
00:47:42,710 --> 00:47:40,680
these other records where it's just kind

1145
00:47:44,930 --> 00:47:42,720
of eddie van halen of the vocal cords

1146
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:44,940
just spraying things all over the place

1147
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:47,010
I mean it sounds like she's in trance

1148
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:48,930
and she's saying wait takes a lonely one

1149
00:47:54,470 --> 00:47:52,650
meaning somebody's gonna die when they

1150
00:47:56,870 --> 00:47:54,480
get caught up in a wake because in the

1151
00:48:01,160 --> 00:47:56,880
lyrics before she lurches into the

1152
00:48:04,340 --> 00:48:01,170
chorus go tides touching walls so the

1153
00:48:09,020 --> 00:48:04,350
water is overtaking this person and it's

1154
00:48:10,370 --> 00:48:09,030
so scary I mean it's it scares me it's

1155
00:48:12,860 --> 00:48:10,380
like people go you know whatever who

1156
00:48:15,050 --> 00:48:12,870
cares so let's go see it no this scares

1157
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:15,060
me because this is real and the other

1158
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:15,930
thing when you're talking about the

1159
00:48:20,570 --> 00:48:17,610
lyrics and the song titles I mean we

1160
00:48:23,690 --> 00:48:20,580
have you know sea swallow me she will

1161
00:48:25,370 --> 00:48:23,700
destroy you one of the best songs which

1162
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:25,380
is kind of like if you were listening to

1163
00:48:30,770 --> 00:48:27,890
ABBA doing dancing queen but you are on

1164
00:48:32,390 --> 00:48:30,780
ecstasy like a lot of ecstasy that's

1165
00:48:35,750 --> 00:48:32,400
what the song kind of sounds like I mean

1166
00:48:38,870 --> 00:48:35,760
it's just like oh my god it's an orgasm

1167
00:48:40,700 --> 00:48:38,880
but it's called Lorelei and Lorelei is

1168
00:48:42,140 --> 00:48:40,710
the German incarnation of the siren I

1169
00:48:45,290 --> 00:48:42,150
believe this is in the Ring cycle and

1170
00:48:49,220 --> 00:48:45,300
vogner's Ring cycle but it gets even

1171
00:48:51,130 --> 00:48:49,230
creepier it gets even weirder because so

1172
00:48:54,770 --> 00:48:51,140
what had happened is that she had this

1173
00:48:56,330 --> 00:48:54,780
relationship with Jeff Buckley and this

1174
00:48:59,510 --> 00:48:56,340
name doesn't mean anything to people

1175
00:49:01,460 --> 00:48:59,520
nowadays but he was a really big deal in

1176
00:49:05,690 --> 00:49:01,470
the mid nineties like the post grunge

1177
00:49:09,500 --> 00:49:05,700
era a lot of celebrities Brad Pitt

1178
00:49:12,230 --> 00:49:09,510
Jimmy Page Johnny Depp a lot of like

1179
00:49:15,319 --> 00:49:12,240
these kind of Hollywood in type guys who

1180
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:15,329
think their rockers we're really really

1181
00:49:18,710 --> 00:49:17,130
seriously into this guy and the first

1182
00:49:20,390 --> 00:49:18,720
time I heard him I go geez this guy

1183
00:49:22,490 --> 00:49:20,400
sounds like you listen to what [\h__\h] on a

1184
00:49:24,259 --> 00:49:22,500
Cocteau to his records but anyway so

1185
00:49:24,950 --> 00:49:24,269
what happened is that she fell in love

1186
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:24,960
with him

1187
00:49:29,359 --> 00:49:27,930
hey I mean she really fell in love with

1188
00:49:32,049 --> 00:49:29,369
him I mean she fell in love with him

1189
00:49:36,950 --> 00:49:32,059
like you read in old fairy tales

1190
00:49:39,019 --> 00:49:36,960
she's just crazy crazy crazy fell in

1191
00:49:41,089 --> 00:49:39,029
love with this guy and he was kind of in

1192
00:49:44,089 --> 00:49:41,099
love with her but he's a rock star and

1193
00:49:44,900 --> 00:49:44,099
he's he's doing the notches in the

1194
00:49:47,599 --> 00:49:44,910
bedpost deal

1195
00:49:49,009 --> 00:49:47,609
you know he's rock star who's the young

1196
00:49:51,140 --> 00:49:49,019
hip thing and like chicks up just

1197
00:49:54,250 --> 00:49:51,150
throwing themselves at him so he's like

1198
00:49:56,450 --> 00:49:54,260
okay you know this really weird girl

1199
00:49:58,130 --> 00:49:56,460
woman at this point in time this really

1200
00:50:00,319 --> 00:49:58,140
weird woman she's really interesting but

1201
00:50:02,900 --> 00:50:00,329
she's really intense and she's kind of

1202
00:50:05,059 --> 00:50:02,910
crazy and I think she's possessed so I'm

1203
00:50:06,559 --> 00:50:05,069
gonna go have sex with this other singer

1204
00:50:09,470 --> 00:50:06,569
named Joan Wasser

1205
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:09,480
wasup which means water in German so he

1206
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:12,690
breaks up with her and the first thing

1207
00:50:17,420 --> 00:50:16,170
she does is record a batch of songs sort

1208
00:50:19,730 --> 00:50:17,430
of my least favorite song she have a

1209
00:50:21,829 --> 00:50:19,740
saying but they're all about you know

1210
00:50:24,140 --> 00:50:21,839
why don't you love me please take me

1211
00:50:25,940 --> 00:50:24,150
back she's actually singing in English

1212
00:50:27,829 --> 00:50:25,950
now and she's like you know why don't

1213
00:50:30,109 --> 00:50:27,839
you love me anymore I still love you you

1214
00:50:31,700 --> 00:50:30,119
know I hate you I love you I mean just

1215
00:50:33,380 --> 00:50:31,710
all these kind of songs you would

1216
00:50:36,740 --> 00:50:33,390
imagine somebody singing after really

1217
00:50:38,690 --> 00:50:36,750
intense breakup right but the creepy

1218
00:50:40,819 --> 00:50:38,700
thing about it just this there's nothing

1219
00:50:42,859 --> 00:50:40,829
in this story that isn't creepy she

1220
00:50:47,539 --> 00:50:42,869
makes a long-form video to go along with

1221
00:50:50,660 --> 00:50:47,549
us and the opening image is of a river I

1222
00:50:52,370 --> 00:50:50,670
mean it's like digitally messed up with

1223
00:50:54,319 --> 00:50:52,380
sparkles and all this kind of stuff but

1224
00:50:55,759 --> 00:50:54,329
it's a river and then you know this is

1225
00:50:57,499 --> 00:50:55,769
sort of the credit sequence to this

1226
00:50:59,180 --> 00:50:57,509
long-form video and it ends with a

1227
00:51:02,059 --> 00:50:59,190
sunset so it starts as the river ends

1228
00:51:04,339 --> 00:51:02,069
with a sunset Jeff Buckley dies in a

1229
00:51:06,559 --> 00:51:04,349
river at sunset so I mean that's how

1230
00:51:09,019 --> 00:51:06,569
creepy this is two years later by the

1231
00:51:11,900 --> 00:51:09,029
way and also throw in that heaven or Las

1232
00:51:14,269 --> 00:51:11,910
Vegas album element because that also is

1233
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:14,279
about the river and where he died yeah

1234
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:16,890
Road River and rail which the title

1235
00:51:21,710 --> 00:51:19,410
there describes exact

1236
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:21,720
I mean exactly where he died he died in

1237
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:25,410
the wolf river in between an overpass

1238
00:51:32,180 --> 00:51:30,170
for a road and a overpass for a mono

1239
00:51:34,789 --> 00:51:32,190
what are those things called mono rails

1240
00:51:36,049 --> 00:51:34,799
like a rail so you know you got to see

1241
00:51:39,259 --> 00:51:36,059
this visually because I show it on the

1242
00:51:40,849 --> 00:51:39,269
blog it's Road literally like checking

1243
00:51:42,710 --> 00:51:40,859
off boxes wrote okay there's a road

1244
00:51:44,359 --> 00:51:42,720
there's the river there's a rail one two

1245
00:51:45,559 --> 00:51:44,369
three bum bum bum and you're going like

1246
00:51:47,809 --> 00:51:45,569
oh okay

1247
00:51:50,269 --> 00:51:47,819
but the song before that is called wolf

1248
00:51:54,410 --> 00:51:50,279
in the breast wolf in the breast he dies

1249
00:51:58,160 --> 00:51:54,420
in the wolf river in a river underneath

1250
00:51:59,749 --> 00:51:58,170
the road and a rail okay so that's kind

1251
00:52:02,390 --> 00:51:59,759
of weird and those are the eighth and

1252
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:02,400
ninth songs on the album right well

1253
00:52:05,390 --> 00:52:03,930
that's the other thing is that the

1254
00:52:06,559 --> 00:52:05,400
eighth and ninth songs the album and

1255
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:06,569
this is back in the day when people were

1256
00:52:11,299 --> 00:52:08,970
still buying cassettes and it's the

1257
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:11,309
third and the fourth song and the

1258
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:15,930
cassette and you know 34 North 89 West

1259
00:52:19,819 --> 00:52:17,970
is the source of the Wolf River where

1260
00:52:22,370 --> 00:52:19,829
this guy died so it's just like it never

1261
00:52:24,740 --> 00:52:22,380
liked it Lonnie pass yeah no I'm serious

1262
00:52:27,079 --> 00:52:24,750
but it gets worse or better I mean

1263
00:52:29,539 --> 00:52:27,089
depending on your point of view so the

1264
00:52:31,549 --> 00:52:29,549
last song so we have wolf in the breast

1265
00:52:34,099 --> 00:52:31,559
you know the Wolf River in the breast in

1266
00:52:36,769 --> 00:52:34,109
your chest in your lungs Road River and

1267
00:52:38,990 --> 00:52:36,779
rail where it happens but the song after

1268
00:52:41,259 --> 00:52:39,000
that is called frou-frou foxes in

1269
00:52:43,789 --> 00:52:41,269
mid-summer fires and you think well that

1270
00:52:45,380 --> 00:52:43,799
sounds ridiculous what does that have to

1271
00:52:46,999 --> 00:52:45,390
do with anything well I'll tell you

1272
00:52:48,829 --> 00:52:47,009
exactly what it has to do with it has to

1273
00:52:53,299 --> 00:52:48,839
do with Chris Cornell's death and you're

1274
00:52:57,109 --> 00:52:53,309
like wait what okay Chris Cornell dies

1275
00:52:59,240 --> 00:52:57,119
at the MGM Grand Hotel after performing

1276
00:53:02,779 --> 00:52:59,250
at the Fox Theater okay so there's our

1277
00:53:05,839 --> 00:53:02,789
Fox this our Fox's element and across

1278
00:53:07,700 --> 00:53:05,849
the street from the Fox Theater is st.

1279
00:53:11,950 --> 00:53:07,710
John's Church and you go what is out and

1280
00:53:16,870 --> 00:53:14,109
just people lighting fires in the middle

1281
00:53:21,130 --> 00:53:16,880
of July and it's a day it's st. John's

1282
00:53:22,450 --> 00:53:21,140
day so it's like oh wait a minute so the

1283
00:53:24,849 --> 00:53:22,460
Fox Theater is across the street from

1284
00:53:27,820 --> 00:53:24,859
st. John's Church so you have foxes

1285
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:27,830
Midsummer fires you know very specific

1286
00:53:31,660 --> 00:53:30,050
and you go okay well could be random

1287
00:53:32,530 --> 00:53:31,670
chance what about this frou-frou thing

1288
00:53:35,500 --> 00:53:32,540
what the hell is that

1289
00:53:37,870 --> 00:53:35,510
well frou-frou is a terminology from

1290
00:53:40,359 --> 00:53:37,880
French fashion you know something's

1291
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:40,369
frou-frou it's got a lot of ribbons and

1292
00:53:43,630 --> 00:53:42,890
bows and rhinestones or whatever I mean

1293
00:53:45,010 --> 00:53:43,640
it's very fancy

1294
00:53:47,349 --> 00:53:45,020
yeah now what does that have to do with

1295
00:53:49,660 --> 00:53:47,359
Chris Cornell well Chris Cornell used to

1296
00:53:51,250 --> 00:53:49,670
own a restaurant in Paris where was the

1297
00:53:55,720 --> 00:53:51,260
restaurant it was in the fashion

1298
00:53:57,010 --> 00:53:55,730
district so you go wait a minute so it's

1299
00:54:01,690 --> 00:53:57,020
who it is

1300
00:54:04,210 --> 00:54:01,700
and where it happens and you just go you

1301
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:04,220
know the the probability cloche in here

1302
00:54:09,070 --> 00:54:06,410
is really starting to dissolve you know

1303
00:54:11,109 --> 00:54:09,080
what I'm saying I mean right so you

1304
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:11,119
think well so that's Chris Cornell what

1305
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:12,410
does have to do anything well like I

1306
00:54:18,250 --> 00:54:15,170
said Chris Cornell was really super

1307
00:54:19,900 --> 00:54:18,260
close to Jeff Buckley so so close to

1308
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:19,910
Jeff Buckley that when he went on tour

1309
00:54:25,450 --> 00:54:22,970
in 2011 he actually took this phone with

1310
00:54:28,500 --> 00:54:25,460
him and it was Jeff Buckley's phone

1311
00:54:31,870 --> 00:54:28,510
he had this red kind of old-school phone

1312
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:31,880
that Chris Cornell had onstage with him

1313
00:54:35,950 --> 00:54:34,490
throughout this entire tour because he

1314
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:35,960
said he kept it because he was always

1315
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:38,930
expecting Jeff to call him hmm how

1316
00:54:42,430 --> 00:54:40,490
creepy and weird is that you know and

1317
00:54:44,140 --> 00:54:42,440
I'm saying so this is how intense their

1318
00:54:46,660 --> 00:54:44,150
relationship was I mean he's taking Jeff

1319
00:54:48,370 --> 00:54:46,670
Buckley's telephone and putting on a

1320
00:54:50,500 --> 00:54:48,380
stool next to him while he's performing

1321
00:54:52,839 --> 00:54:50,510
you know his acoustic tour so it's just

1322
00:54:55,690 --> 00:54:52,849
like oh okay

1323
00:54:57,730 --> 00:54:55,700
huh and believe me this is just the tip

1324
00:55:00,120 --> 00:54:57,740
of the iceberg it just goes up and down

1325
00:55:02,740 --> 00:55:00,130
the line and really what this all

1326
00:55:05,170 --> 00:55:02,750
culminates in I'll just sort of back-end

1327
00:55:06,790 --> 00:55:05,180
this a little for you is that we're

1328
00:55:08,650 --> 00:55:06,800
talking about this on my Facebook group

1329
00:55:10,510 --> 00:55:08,660
and people are like freaking out as

1330
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:10,520
these things just piled up one on top of

1331
00:55:14,710 --> 00:55:12,410
the other and I said this is leading to

1332
00:55:16,599 --> 00:55:14,720
something bad something very big and

1333
00:55:17,740 --> 00:55:16,609
something very bad is going to happen

1334
00:55:19,750 --> 00:55:17,750
and it's going to have something to do

1335
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:19,760
with the siren you're going to know this

1336
00:55:22,210 --> 00:55:21,050
has something to do with a siren and

1337
00:55:24,859 --> 00:55:22,220
it's gonna be big and it's going to be

1338
00:55:27,140 --> 00:55:24,869
bad and sure enough right

1339
00:55:28,519 --> 00:55:27,150
after Twin Peaks and I think even before

1340
00:55:30,529 --> 00:55:28,529
what while I was ending

1341
00:55:35,930 --> 00:55:30,539
we had these hurricanes starting with

1342
00:55:38,690 --> 00:55:35,940
Harvey Jose Maria and Katia all of which

1343
00:55:40,609 --> 00:55:38,700
have pretty direct you know you break

1344
00:55:43,059 --> 00:55:40,619
down the names and the origins they sort

1345
00:55:45,140 --> 00:55:43,069
of all tie into this constellation of

1346
00:55:48,470 --> 00:55:45,150
goddesses that have incarnated

1347
00:55:50,630 --> 00:55:48,480
themselves as a siren now and incarnated

1348
00:55:53,900 --> 00:55:50,640
themselves at the sirens back in ancient

1349
00:55:55,970 --> 00:55:53,910
Rome as well and it's all tying in but

1350
00:55:59,269 --> 00:55:55,980
the thing is is that people go okay well

1351
00:56:00,739 --> 00:55:59,279
that's open to interpretation well what

1352
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:00,749
does this have to do with you know

1353
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:02,249
hurricanes and siren habla

1354
00:56:08,210 --> 00:56:04,890
well the siren mermaids on and on and on

1355
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:08,220
were responsible said to be responsible

1356
00:56:14,779 --> 00:56:12,450
for storm storms at sea hurricanes yeah

1357
00:56:17,720 --> 00:56:14,789
I mean this is the sailors believe not

1358
00:56:19,789 --> 00:56:17,730
only did these mermaid sirens lure you

1359
00:56:22,819 --> 00:56:19,799
to your death and then eat you they also

1360
00:56:24,769 --> 00:56:22,829
created these horrible storms which

1361
00:56:27,859 --> 00:56:24,779
thank you boat and then you drowned and

1362
00:56:30,589 --> 00:56:27,869
then they ate you right and yeah of

1363
00:56:32,829 --> 00:56:30,599
course there's that new Netflix show the

1364
00:56:35,809 --> 00:56:32,839
santa clarita diet about a woman who

1365
00:56:38,739 --> 00:56:35,819
must eat human flesh and it's all set in

1366
00:56:41,690 --> 00:56:38,749
a quirky suburban type of dark comedy

1367
00:56:44,749 --> 00:56:41,700
landscape but again it's it's the woman

1368
00:56:46,670 --> 00:56:44,759
who is leading people to their death and

1369
00:56:48,229 --> 00:56:46,680
then eating them oh it's just so crazy

1370
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:48,239
yeah it goes on from there though

1371
00:56:53,059 --> 00:56:50,970
because there's this polish movie called

1372
00:56:56,900 --> 00:56:53,069
the Loire which is about these two

1373
00:56:59,329 --> 00:56:56,910
sirens who Jeep become 80s pop stars you

1374
00:57:01,160 --> 00:56:59,339
know 80s new wave pop stars who would

1375
00:57:02,690 --> 00:57:01,170
ever make that Association you know I

1376
00:57:04,009 --> 00:57:02,700
mean who doesn't think of babies pop

1377
00:57:07,430 --> 00:57:04,019
stars when you think of the siren right

1378
00:57:08,989 --> 00:57:07,440
so that's weird we have a TV show called

1379
00:57:11,539 --> 00:57:08,999
the siren which is going to be on a new

1380
00:57:13,789 --> 00:57:11,549
Disney Channel I think early next year I

1381
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:13,799
mean this stuff is everywhere mm-hmm

1382
00:57:18,289 --> 00:57:16,650
it's so it's so pervasive that you don't

1383
00:57:20,839 --> 00:57:18,299
think about it because it's all packaged

1384
00:57:23,359 --> 00:57:20,849
and it's like oh we made so happy I buy

1385
00:57:27,109 --> 00:57:23,369
a tail and go to the pool no mermaids

1386
00:57:30,529 --> 00:57:27,119
are like you die and you get eaten this

1387
00:57:32,630 --> 00:57:30,539
is dark this is the apocalypse I love

1388
00:57:34,190 --> 00:57:32,640
this case study man because conspiracy

1389
00:57:38,210 --> 00:57:34,200
folks are always trying to pick apart

1390
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:38,220
the symbols in music in particular and

1391
00:57:41,370 --> 00:57:38,770
they'll look at

1392
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:41,380
you know like pyramids around the eye or

1393
00:57:45,990 --> 00:57:43,570
Rockefeller rather Records or a do what

1394
00:57:48,060 --> 00:57:46,000
thou wilt chain or something and that's

1395
00:57:49,740 --> 00:57:48,070
interesting it shows they clearly have

1396
00:57:51,630 --> 00:57:49,750
knowledge of this stuff but you're

1397
00:57:54,420 --> 00:57:51,640
talking about the case study of a

1398
00:57:56,700 --> 00:57:54,430
specific spell and ritual like a full

1399
00:57:58,770 --> 00:57:56,710
closed loop I love the term that this

1400
00:58:00,540 --> 00:57:58,780
entity is like collecting trophies

1401
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:00,550
because we're seeing deaths associated

1402
00:58:07,830 --> 00:58:03,610
spiraling out from the creation of this

1403
00:58:09,540 --> 00:58:07,840
song and this is what those music

1404
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:09,550
analysts should be looking at like if

1405
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:11,890
they really are all into magic and the

1406
00:58:15,990 --> 00:58:14,170
occult and rituals well where is the

1407
00:58:17,270 --> 00:58:16,000
evidence of that this is that evidence

1408
00:58:19,650 --> 00:58:17,280
it's right here

1409
00:58:20,910 --> 00:58:19,660
that's my entire point right because

1410
00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:20,920
I've always seen that stuff over the

1411
00:58:25,290 --> 00:58:22,570
years I mean this is where it really

1412
00:58:27,330 --> 00:58:25,300
started it really started with a guy who

1413
00:58:28,860 --> 00:58:27,340
I had had some contact with named Ben

1414
00:58:31,770 --> 00:58:28,870
singleton he was a high school student

1415
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:31,780
from Britain and he had this blog called

1416
00:58:35,730 --> 00:58:34,330
pseudo occult media and he sort of

1417
00:58:39,930 --> 00:58:35,740
latched on to this whole thing with

1418
00:58:42,990 --> 00:58:39,940
monarch and MKULTRA and the pop stars

1419
00:58:44,820 --> 00:58:43,000
and all the symbolism and then you know

1420
00:58:47,070 --> 00:58:44,830
vigilant citizen comes along and so the

1421
00:58:48,450 --> 00:58:47,080
strip mines the entire synchronistic

1422
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:48,460
community stole a bunch of stuff for me

1423
00:58:53,940 --> 00:58:51,730
stole pretty much his entire thesis from

1424
00:58:56,970 --> 00:58:53,950
Ben singleton and then it's off to the

1425
00:58:58,740 --> 00:58:56,980
races because what happens is that you

1426
00:59:00,720 --> 00:58:58,750
know it becomes viral on the Internet

1427
00:59:03,420 --> 00:59:00,730
and then all these producers and

1428
00:59:05,790 --> 00:59:03,430
designers and promoters they go oh well

1429
00:59:07,740 --> 00:59:05,800
let's start doing this intentional I

1430
00:59:09,210 --> 00:59:07,750
killed and they start doing an intent I

1431
00:59:11,220 --> 00:59:09,220
mean I think a lot of it was intentional

1432
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:11,230
from the beginning but they start doing

1433
00:59:17,570 --> 00:59:15,010
it and it's like oh and it just becomes

1434
00:59:20,970 --> 00:59:17,580
all pervasive but you know you can trace

1435
00:59:23,780 --> 00:59:20,980
you can trace the steps of that it's out

1436
00:59:26,250 --> 00:59:23,790
there it's just people doing things it's

1437
00:59:28,770 --> 00:59:26,260
nothing really terribly unusual about

1438
00:59:30,660 --> 00:59:28,780
that it's how culture is formed it comes

1439
00:59:32,490 --> 00:59:30,670
up from the con to culture and works its

1440
00:59:33,780 --> 00:59:32,500
way into the mainstream of course what

1441
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:33,790
came up from the kanto culture was

1442
00:59:36,810 --> 00:59:35,770
incredibly toxic and evil and horrible

1443
00:59:38,700 --> 00:59:36,820
but you know here we are

1444
00:59:41,180 --> 00:59:38,710
but it's interesting the thing with

1445
00:59:44,070 --> 00:59:41,190
monarch because I've always been like

1446
00:59:45,690 --> 00:59:44,080
not really down with the monarchy not

1447
00:59:47,220 --> 00:59:45,700
that I don't believe that something like

1448
00:59:49,950 --> 00:59:47,230
that could happen I'm just talking about

1449
00:59:52,670 --> 00:59:49,960
the particular presentation that we saw

1450
00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:52,680
in Kathy O'Brien's book just

1451
00:59:56,390 --> 00:59:54,930
stretch my credulity to the breakpoint

1452
00:59:58,460 --> 00:59:56,400
and it's not just me

1453
00:59:59,870 --> 00:59:58,470
I mean it's Jim Keith gem keep is of

1454
01:00:01,099 --> 00:59:59,880
course dead now because that's what

1455
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:01,109
happens with people who really know

1456
01:00:03,829 --> 01:00:01,770
what's going on

1457
01:00:06,079 --> 01:00:03,839
Jim Keith died at Burning Man by the way

1458
01:00:07,700 --> 01:00:06,089
or his cause of death came from Burning

1459
01:00:09,319 --> 01:00:07,710
Man and of course we saw the human

1460
01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:09,329
sacrifice at Burning Man this year all

1461
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:10,770
right guy ran into the fire

1462
01:00:17,900 --> 01:00:14,730
yeah from McAlester Oklahoma McAllister

1463
01:00:20,900 --> 01:00:17,910
I mean gee that's interesting cuz anyway

1464
01:00:24,109 --> 01:00:20,910
went into a fire yeah that's creepy as

1465
01:00:25,460 --> 01:00:24,119
hell but this is 2017 a course that had

1466
01:00:27,890 --> 01:00:25,470
to happen because this is where we are

1467
01:00:29,059 --> 01:00:27,900
but no it's gonna say about Manik you

1468
01:00:30,319 --> 01:00:29,069
know I've always been kind of skeptical

1469
01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:30,329
about it and I've always kind of felt

1470
01:00:33,890 --> 01:00:31,890
like Mark Phillips was just kind of like

1471
01:00:35,870 --> 01:00:33,900
I mean rest his soul he just recently

1472
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:35,880
passed away but I always think that you

1473
01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:37,890
didn't really exactly take this stuff

1474
01:00:42,319 --> 01:00:39,690
seriously ain't having a laugh

1475
01:00:44,510 --> 01:00:42,329
people disagree with me fine but you

1476
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:44,520
monarch butterfly symbolism which we see

1477
01:00:49,490 --> 01:00:46,530
all over fringe of course which is all

1478
01:00:51,470 --> 01:00:49,500
about mind control abuse girl who can

1479
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:51,480
cross dimensions of course because

1480
01:00:55,490 --> 01:00:53,490
that's what it has to be because what

1481
01:00:56,809 --> 01:00:55,500
story isn't about that right but the

1482
01:01:00,200 --> 01:00:56,819
whole idea of monarch and butterflies

1483
01:01:02,510 --> 01:01:00,210
Elizabeth Fraser pretty much wrote an

1484
01:01:04,940 --> 01:01:02,520
entire album with butterfly symbol as a

1485
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:04,950
minute and one of these songs is called

1486
01:01:10,990 --> 01:01:07,890
playing tiger and plain tiger is a type

1487
01:01:13,700 --> 01:01:11,000
of monarch butterfly so you know

1488
01:01:15,319 --> 01:01:13,710
circumstantial kind of symbolic maybe a

1489
01:01:18,049 --> 01:01:15,329
little bit more but maybe is kind of

1490
01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:18,059
pointing to something a little right you

1491
01:01:21,559 --> 01:01:19,650
know like it wouldn't surprise me if

1492
01:01:24,829 --> 01:01:21,569
monarch symbolism was really heavily

1493
01:01:27,650 --> 01:01:24,839
used in MKULTRA m'kay off and whatever

1494
01:01:30,650 --> 01:01:27,660
sort of grew out of that but I'm not

1495
01:01:32,210 --> 01:01:30,660
really buying at least that version of

1496
01:01:34,490 --> 01:01:32,220
the monarch story that you know that

1497
01:01:36,349 --> 01:01:34,500
we're familiar with just because you

1498
01:01:38,780 --> 01:01:36,359
know like Jim Keith said she has this

1499
01:01:41,059 --> 01:01:38,790
photographic memory about everything and

1500
01:01:42,289 --> 01:01:41,069
can remember every detail of everything

1501
01:01:44,059 --> 01:01:42,299
that happened her but she can never

1502
01:01:45,859 --> 01:01:44,069
describe where it happened she can never

1503
01:01:47,390 --> 01:01:45,869
describe when an army base looks like I

1504
01:01:48,710 --> 01:01:47,400
mean all these kind of things we just

1505
01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:48,720
kind of go

1506
01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:53,250
no no you know what right it's like kind

1507
01:01:57,170 --> 01:01:55,290
of over-the-top and dramatic and a

1508
01:01:59,480 --> 01:01:57,180
little commercialized but at its core

1509
01:02:01,220 --> 01:01:59,490
there's some real truth some real

1510
01:02:03,140 --> 01:02:01,230
threads running through it just kind of

1511
01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:03,150
like another analogy could be the pizza

1512
01:02:08,060 --> 01:02:05,130
gate thing we know the elite are abusing

1513
01:02:11,300 --> 01:02:08,070
children but that got spun off into a

1514
01:02:13,100 --> 01:02:11,310
weird area and it culminated of course

1515
01:02:15,140 --> 01:02:13,110
in that shooter going in there which

1516
01:02:16,820 --> 01:02:15,150
then makes it a hush-hush thing and

1517
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:16,830
scary to talk about and we should have

1518
01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:19,530
some responsibility for the claims we're

1519
01:02:22,910 --> 01:02:21,090
making because we might set off some

1520
01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:22,920
crazy person that becomes the story but

1521
01:02:30,260 --> 01:02:26,370
the core there is a story as old as time

1522
01:02:32,270 --> 01:02:30,270
elite people abusing children yeah and

1523
01:02:33,530 --> 01:02:32,280
not only abusing children but often

1524
01:02:35,750 --> 01:02:33,540
abused like I said with this whole

1525
01:02:38,060 --> 01:02:35,760
shamanic thing with certain buddhist

1526
01:02:41,660 --> 01:02:38,070
monasteries certainly monasteries of all

1527
01:02:44,870 --> 01:02:41,670
types yeah you know with a purpose they

1528
01:02:48,140 --> 01:02:44,880
believe that children are kind of the

1529
01:02:50,390 --> 01:02:48,150
Gateway to this alternate reality right

1530
01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:50,400
break the kids and break open the

1531
01:02:55,100 --> 01:02:53,610
constructs exactly not only break open

1532
01:02:57,170 --> 01:02:55,110
the contract but they think that it can

1533
01:02:59,260 --> 01:02:57,180
open star gates it can open portal

1534
01:03:01,520 --> 01:02:59,270
somehow I mean that's literally how

1535
01:03:05,060 --> 01:03:01,530
extreme the thinking is how just

1536
01:03:07,730 --> 01:03:05,070
completely like okay you know that's how

1537
01:03:10,940 --> 01:03:07,740
crazy you can get yeah but you know in

1538
01:03:12,890 --> 01:03:10,950
this case we have this woman let me just

1539
01:03:14,150 --> 01:03:12,900
back this up people think well who is

1540
01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:14,160
this woman who cares about this woman

1541
01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:16,050
you know she's nobody whatever I mean

1542
01:03:22,250 --> 01:03:18,330
she sang the what is used for the theme

1543
01:03:24,770 --> 01:03:22,260
song for house m.d. which was one of the

1544
01:03:25,190 --> 01:03:24,780
I think was the most-watched show in the

1545
01:03:26,990 --> 01:03:25,200
world

1546
01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:27,000
at a certain point in time in its run

1547
01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:30,450
the theme song to that she sings and if

1548
01:03:34,340 --> 01:03:32,610
you go to youtube and look up that video

1549
01:03:37,820 --> 01:03:34,350
that she sings on I think it's had over

1550
01:03:40,250 --> 01:03:37,830
50 million views by now so this isn't

1551
01:03:43,220 --> 01:03:40,260
just completely obscure indie nonsense

1552
01:03:45,500 --> 01:03:43,230
I'm ranting on about here right and and

1553
01:03:47,750 --> 01:03:45,510
so we went through that course story Tim

1554
01:03:50,090 --> 01:03:47,760
Buckley writes the song Elizabeth Fraser

1555
01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:50,100
covers it his son falls in love with her

1556
01:03:56,450 --> 01:03:53,250
and eventually is drowned in a river and

1557
01:03:58,700 --> 01:03:56,460
now this little saga it also ties into

1558
01:04:01,850 --> 01:03:58,710
maybe that what we could call the big

1559
01:04:02,599 --> 01:04:01,860
picture when you add in that chapter

1560
01:04:06,140 --> 01:04:02,609
about the mole

1561
01:04:07,579 --> 01:04:06,150
I am dome show right yeah well I'm gonna

1562
01:04:08,749 --> 01:04:07,589
get to that in just a second sure I

1563
01:04:10,039 --> 01:04:08,759
think I want to back this up is that

1564
01:04:13,489 --> 01:04:10,049
like so what he drowns in a river that

1565
01:04:17,089 --> 01:04:13,499
happens well that's how these shepherd

1566
01:04:20,359 --> 01:04:17,099
boy consorts of these goddesses in this

1567
01:04:22,849 --> 01:04:20,369
Simon lineage usually die classic

1568
01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:22,859
example is a Cyrus but the other thing

1569
01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:24,450
in here I mean this is how creepy it

1570
01:04:29,930 --> 01:04:27,930
gets Buckley first of all Jeff Buckley

1571
01:04:32,140 --> 01:04:29,940
is a stage name his real name was Scott

1572
01:04:34,549 --> 01:04:32,150
Morehead and you know it's a whole other

1573
01:04:37,160 --> 01:04:34,559
where she seems to have anticipated that

1574
01:04:39,289 --> 01:04:37,170
but Scott Moore head becomes Jeff

1575
01:04:41,660 --> 01:04:39,299
Buckley he takes on his father's name

1576
01:04:44,210 --> 01:04:41,670
and his middle name the thing is is that

1577
01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:44,220
Buckley means shepherd boy so he's not

1578
01:04:48,019 --> 01:04:45,890
only you know a shepherd boy

1579
01:04:49,249 --> 01:04:48,029
symbolically and this this whole drama

1580
01:04:50,900 --> 01:04:49,259
were unveiling here

1581
01:04:53,329 --> 01:04:50,910
that's literally with his surname means

1582
01:04:55,819 --> 01:04:53,339
and Gaelic means shepherd boy

1583
01:04:57,829 --> 01:04:55,829
no the other interesting thing with

1584
01:04:59,599 --> 01:04:57,839
Frasier and you know we have Elizabeth

1585
01:05:01,729 --> 01:04:59,609
where we have you know the Virgin Queen

1586
01:05:03,019 --> 01:05:01,739
of the Shakespearean Elizabeth Queen

1587
01:05:05,599 --> 01:05:03,029
Elizabeth the first and then we have

1588
01:05:08,329 --> 01:05:05,609
this Queen Elizabeth now who just

1589
01:05:10,039 --> 01:05:08,339
doesn't seem to ever die I think she's I

1590
01:05:11,839 --> 01:05:10,049
don't know what she is I think she's

1591
01:05:14,509 --> 01:05:11,849
like a Cylon or something she just

1592
01:05:17,479 --> 01:05:14,519
continues on forever you know so it ties

1593
01:05:20,150 --> 01:05:17,489
the whole Elizabethan motif but the

1594
01:05:21,739 --> 01:05:20,160
surname here Frasier comes from the

1595
01:05:23,779 --> 01:05:21,749
French word for strawberry it's it's

1596
01:05:25,819 --> 01:05:23,789
actually a French Norman name for

1597
01:05:27,890 --> 01:05:25,829
strawberry and strawberries you know so

1598
01:05:30,170 --> 01:05:27,900
what strawberries whatever strawberries

1599
01:05:32,329 --> 01:05:30,180
were sacred to Venus in Roman times and

1600
01:05:34,700 --> 01:05:32,339
of course Venus has Adonis who's her

1601
01:05:37,039 --> 01:05:34,710
shepherd boy lover who dies literally I

1602
01:05:39,079 --> 01:05:37,049
mean this all probably sounds completely

1603
01:05:41,289 --> 01:05:39,089
insane to a lot of your listeners but

1604
01:05:44,900 --> 01:05:41,299
just take my word for it every single

1605
01:05:47,479 --> 01:05:44,910
detail in this story just lines up

1606
01:05:49,519 --> 01:05:47,489
exactly in ways that just your head

1607
01:05:51,799 --> 01:05:49,529
starts to spin yeah it's just it's crazy

1608
01:05:54,380 --> 01:05:51,809
and you know I could go on and on about

1609
01:05:56,359 --> 01:05:54,390
all the songs that presage all this you

1610
01:05:58,789 --> 01:05:56,369
know well to give just one more example

1611
01:06:00,950 --> 01:05:58,799
can you tell him about the kissed out

1612
01:06:03,620 --> 01:06:00,960
red float boat because that's a great

1613
01:06:06,950 --> 01:06:03,630
one Oh crystal red float boat is is

1614
01:06:10,430 --> 01:06:06,960
crazy so Jeff Buckley dies in the Wolf

1615
01:06:13,670 --> 01:06:10,440
River underneath the pyramid which is

1616
01:06:16,250 --> 01:06:13,680
now on by bass pro shops so he dies and

1617
01:06:18,470 --> 01:06:16,260
his body is discovered a few days late

1618
01:06:20,690 --> 01:06:18,480
first of all this is like here is like a

1619
01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:20,700
police operation like you've never seen

1620
01:06:26,600 --> 01:06:23,210
your huge search for this I mean

1621
01:06:27,620 --> 01:06:26,610
helicopters divers boats everything they

1622
01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:27,630
couldn't find this guy

1623
01:06:32,150 --> 01:06:30,330
five days later he washes up at the foot

1624
01:06:33,500 --> 01:06:32,160
of Beale Street and if anybody's

1625
01:06:34,730 --> 01:06:33,510
familiar with Memphis and Beale Street

1626
01:06:36,560 --> 01:06:34,740
in the blue isn't all that kind of thing

1627
01:06:38,690 --> 01:06:36,570
and it just goes on and on but he's

1628
01:06:41,360 --> 01:06:38,700
discovered by somebody aboard the

1629
01:06:42,890 --> 01:06:41,370
American Queen riverboat which is a very

1630
01:06:45,350 --> 01:06:42,900
famous riverboat on the Mississippi

1631
01:06:48,140 --> 01:06:45,360
River it's it's well known for its water

1632
01:06:49,370 --> 01:06:48,150
wheel the red water wheel now you think

1633
01:06:53,900 --> 01:06:49,380
well what's the significance of that

1634
01:06:55,450 --> 01:06:53,910
well she had written a song in 1988 for

1635
01:06:57,500 --> 01:06:55,460
an album called Bluebell Knoll and

1636
01:06:58,970 --> 01:06:57,510
Bluebell Mel also ties into the

1637
01:06:59,810 --> 01:06:58,980
Hurricanes but you know there might be a

1638
01:07:02,000 --> 01:06:59,820
story for another day

1639
01:07:04,490 --> 01:07:02,010
Bluebell Knoll is another DEATH home and

1640
01:07:06,320 --> 01:07:04,500
it's a Scottish death omen but the point

1641
01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:06,330
is the song kissed that red float boat

1642
01:07:10,130 --> 01:07:08,490
is a weird song because the music is

1643
01:07:12,110 --> 01:07:10,140
like oh my god this is my best day ever

1644
01:07:13,430 --> 01:07:12,120
soundtrack you know oh hey you know

1645
01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:13,440
things are great look at the sunset you

1646
01:07:18,050 --> 01:07:15,450
know that kind of thing but the lyrics

1647
01:07:20,030 --> 01:07:18,060
which are very obscured basically her

1648
01:07:21,860 --> 01:07:20,040
singing about how you know her husband

1649
01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:21,870
and songwriting partners cheating on her

1650
01:07:25,970 --> 01:07:24,090
and she's really upset about and she's

1651
01:07:28,190 --> 01:07:25,980
sort of singing in the same kind of

1652
01:07:30,230 --> 01:07:28,200
cadence that she sings song to the siren

1653
01:07:32,330 --> 01:07:30,240
so it's almost a sequel to sunken a

1654
01:07:34,490 --> 01:07:32,340
siren in a way you know she's kind of

1655
01:07:36,200 --> 01:07:34,500
singing about you know he loves you and

1656
01:07:39,740 --> 01:07:36,210
he doesn't love me I mean it's really

1657
01:07:41,990 --> 01:07:39,750
sad but the significance of float boat

1658
01:07:44,030 --> 01:07:42,000
is that the boat that discovered him is

1659
01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:44,040
the American Queen the riverboat those

1660
01:07:49,460 --> 01:07:47,370
paddles on the boat they're called

1661
01:07:52,730 --> 01:07:49,470
floats that's the technical term for the

1662
01:07:56,660 --> 01:07:52,740
paddles on a river wheel so and it's red

1663
01:07:59,720 --> 01:07:56,670
right yea and it's red it's red it's a

1664
01:08:01,370 --> 01:07:59,730
red float with red floats I mean uh you

1665
01:08:04,010 --> 01:08:01,380
know and kissed out means like something

1666
01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:04,020
that you're done with so it's kind of

1667
01:08:08,510 --> 01:08:06,450
like this cumulative effect but just the

1668
01:08:10,160 --> 01:08:08,520
fact that it's it's got that title that

1669
01:08:12,380 --> 01:08:10,170
points to her exactly where his body

1670
01:08:14,270 --> 01:08:12,390
found on top of the ten million other

1671
01:08:16,610 --> 01:08:14,280
details that tell you everything is

1672
01:08:18,110 --> 01:08:16,620
about to happen in the story and then

1673
01:08:19,910 --> 01:08:18,120
the way it ends you know it's like a

1674
01:08:21,710 --> 01:08:19,920
kissed out red float boat and he's

1675
01:08:23,990 --> 01:08:21,720
kissed out he's that he's drowned it's

1676
01:08:25,280 --> 01:08:24,000
horrible but he's discovered by you know

1677
01:08:27,530 --> 01:08:25,290
the red flow flow and then when you read

1678
01:08:29,510 --> 01:08:27,540
the lyrics it's all about you don't love

1679
01:08:30,259 --> 01:08:29,520
me you love her and this is at a time

1680
01:08:31,849 --> 01:08:30,269
when he

1681
01:08:33,499 --> 01:08:31,859
having a relationship with Joan masa

1682
01:08:36,169 --> 01:08:33,509
after he broke up with Elizabeth Fraser

1683
01:08:38,299 --> 01:08:36,179
so I mean the whole thing the cumulative

1684
01:08:40,220 --> 01:08:38,309
effect of it is just it always kind of

1685
01:08:41,749 --> 01:08:40,230
instilled disbelief

1686
01:08:45,410 --> 01:08:41,759
just through a cognitive dissonance

1687
01:08:47,390 --> 01:08:45,420
because it just it just piles up just as

1688
01:08:50,269 --> 01:08:47,400
a quick aside she sang another song

1689
01:08:52,489 --> 01:08:50,279
where she's absolutely channeling the

1690
01:08:54,950 --> 01:08:52,499
siren I I will go to the mat on this

1691
01:08:57,109 --> 01:08:54,960
it's creepy as hell and you read the

1692
01:08:59,899 --> 01:08:57,119
lyrics and the choruses come feel too

1693
01:09:02,180 --> 01:08:59,909
deep come feel the deep come die comes

1694
01:09:03,739 --> 01:09:02,190
around you know I am the siren I am

1695
01:09:05,899 --> 01:09:03,749
calling you to your death that's

1696
01:09:08,450 --> 01:09:05,909
literally what the lyrics are it's it's

1697
01:09:11,299 --> 01:09:08,460
really creepy and disturbing and then

1698
01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:11,309
the EP that the song is released the

1699
01:09:15,769 --> 01:09:13,650
song is recorded for is released and a

1700
01:09:18,499 --> 01:09:15,779
couple days later Jeff Buckley and Joan

1701
01:09:21,349 --> 01:09:18,509
wasps are almost round of Gold Coast

1702
01:09:23,959 --> 01:09:21,359
beach in Australia so it's like she's

1703
01:09:26,569 --> 01:09:23,969
saying you know die it's come time to

1704
01:09:28,220 --> 01:09:26,579
die now and like she almost dies I mean

1705
01:09:30,379 --> 01:09:28,230
this is the first time he almost drowned

1706
01:09:32,809 --> 01:09:30,389
the second time was when it actually

1707
01:09:34,910 --> 01:09:32,819
happened but the other thing again it's

1708
01:09:37,099 --> 01:09:34,920
this whole cumulative effect the other

1709
01:09:40,459 --> 01:09:37,109
song and that EP aside from the single

1710
01:09:43,009 --> 01:09:40,469
is the song that's specifically about

1711
01:09:44,599 --> 01:09:43,019
him and there are all sorts of lyrical

1712
01:09:46,669 --> 01:09:44,609
cues that you know this is specifically

1713
01:09:48,589 --> 01:09:46,679
about Jeff Buckley and like the last

1714
01:09:51,289 --> 01:09:48,599
thing she singing is you know the song

1715
01:09:53,479 --> 01:09:51,299
fades out is she singing stay stay you

1716
01:09:56,270 --> 01:09:53,489
know stay with me don't go with her it's

1717
01:09:58,250 --> 01:09:56,280
so incredibly sad and tragic in a human

1718
01:10:01,310 --> 01:09:58,260
level and then the next song is like I

1719
01:10:06,140 --> 01:10:01,320
am the siren it's like you to die it's

1720
01:10:07,489 --> 01:10:06,150
like wow it is it's so layered and I do

1721
01:10:10,129 --> 01:10:07,499
want to get to the Millennium Dome thing

1722
01:10:12,620 --> 01:10:10,139
but one more letter is that after

1723
01:10:15,109 --> 01:10:12,630
Buckley died she only released two songs

1724
01:10:19,879 --> 01:10:15,119
under her name singles called underwater

1725
01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:19,889
and Moses yeah yes I wonder if she like

1726
01:10:24,169 --> 01:10:22,530
might have maybe in hindsight realized

1727
01:10:26,299 --> 01:10:24,179
what had happened or maybe once the

1728
01:10:28,040 --> 01:10:26,309
spirit left her she realized oh my god

1729
01:10:30,470 --> 01:10:28,050
there was something going on I was

1730
01:10:32,419 --> 01:10:30,480
possessed I don't I wonder how she's put

1731
01:10:34,370 --> 01:10:32,429
these pieces together because I feel

1732
01:10:36,410 --> 01:10:34,380
like you know if this was some type of

1733
01:10:38,509 --> 01:10:36,420
magic I don't think she's happy with the

1734
01:10:40,549 --> 01:10:38,519
result because she lost a great love -

1735
01:10:42,229 --> 01:10:40,559
yeah no she's definitely not this is

1736
01:10:43,240 --> 01:10:42,239
what I'm saying pray the gods never

1737
01:10:44,860 --> 01:10:43,250
noticed you

1738
01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:44,870
especially pray that they never choose

1739
01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:47,810
to use you as a vessel because nothing

1740
01:10:52,540 --> 01:10:50,090
good ever comes of it and you know all

1741
01:10:54,970 --> 01:10:52,550
our myths and religions tell us see all

1742
01:10:57,370 --> 01:10:54,980
right all the way back yeah

1743
01:10:59,080 --> 01:10:57,380
it's horribly sad not only did this

1744
01:11:00,820 --> 01:10:59,090
happen these horrible things happen but

1745
01:11:02,860 --> 01:11:00,830
it also just seemed to have taken away

1746
01:11:05,080 --> 01:11:02,870
her musical gifts her voice was just

1747
01:11:06,280 --> 01:11:05,090
kind of gone but oh the other thing I

1748
01:11:08,620 --> 01:11:06,290
should mention is I talked about that

1749
01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:08,630
theme song for house m.d. she recorded

1750
01:11:12,070 --> 01:11:10,610
that it's a song you know yet another

1751
01:11:14,830 --> 01:11:12,080
song about Jeff Buckley that she

1752
01:11:18,340 --> 01:11:14,840
recorded with massive attack literally

1753
01:11:22,330 --> 01:11:18,350
as he was drowning hmm like that's

1754
01:11:25,330 --> 01:11:22,340
literally when she recorded so she talks

1755
01:11:27,880 --> 01:11:25,340
about this on the Jeff Buckley

1756
01:11:30,670 --> 01:11:27,890
documentary so it's like she's singing a

1757
01:11:32,110 --> 01:11:30,680
song and it's one of these songs you

1758
01:11:33,729 --> 01:11:32,120
know you didn't really love me the way

1759
01:11:34,990 --> 01:11:33,739
you should've and it's kind of thing a

1760
01:11:36,990 --> 01:11:35,000
song's called teardrops pretty

1761
01:11:39,640 --> 01:11:37,000
well-known song in some circles and

1762
01:11:43,630 --> 01:11:39,650
she's recording it as he's actually

1763
01:11:45,760 --> 01:11:43,640
drowning it's just it never ends man

1764
01:11:47,350 --> 01:11:45,770
and no it did literally never ends and

1765
01:11:48,790 --> 01:11:47,360
that's the thing that people like I said

1766
01:11:50,740 --> 01:11:48,800
people will hear this and go this guy's

1767
01:11:52,360 --> 01:11:50,750
nuts this guy's office Rock what does he

1768
01:11:54,970 --> 01:11:52,370
talk about and then you just see

1769
01:11:57,459 --> 01:11:54,980
objective facts pile up and you go

1770
01:11:58,750 --> 01:11:57,469
alright he's not that and another one

1771
01:12:00,970 --> 01:11:58,760
that just popped in my head cuz I've

1772
01:12:03,670 --> 01:12:00,980
just read so many from the blog there

1773
01:12:05,890 --> 01:12:03,680
was a time where the Cocteau twins added

1774
01:12:08,110 --> 01:12:05,900
a new member which obviously doesn't

1775
01:12:09,580 --> 01:12:08,120
happen a whole lot in a lot of bands and

1776
01:12:11,740 --> 01:12:09,590
this one in particular doesn't happen a

1777
01:12:14,979 --> 01:12:11,750
whole lot but the guy's previous band

1778
01:12:16,660 --> 01:12:14,989
was drowning crazed yeah and oh by the

1779
01:12:20,890 --> 01:12:16,670
way they added him right after they

1780
01:12:23,350 --> 01:12:20,900
recorded song to the siren I mean [\h__\h]

1781
01:12:25,360 --> 01:12:23,360
literally never ends it never ends and

1782
01:12:27,070 --> 01:12:25,370
it's it's scary and creeping you think

1783
01:12:28,990 --> 01:12:27,080
well why did they choose her she's not

1784
01:12:31,300 --> 01:12:29,000
Beyonce she's not I mean she Frizzles

1785
01:12:32,979 --> 01:12:31,310
for most of her career she had horrible

1786
01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:32,989
stage fright she was terrified to sing

1787
01:12:37,450 --> 01:12:35,810
on stage you know they hated making

1788
01:12:39,370 --> 01:12:37,460
videos I mean this is not a group that

1789
01:12:41,590 --> 01:12:39,380
is gonna become like a mainstream group

1790
01:12:43,270 --> 01:12:41,600
first of all the core of their career

1791
01:12:46,240 --> 01:12:43,280
the best records are all really really

1792
01:12:48,010 --> 01:12:46,250
strange and weird and you know they just

1793
01:12:50,260 --> 01:12:48,020
did not rock stars they're you know the

1794
01:12:53,050 --> 01:12:50,270
studio rats but like I said this is how

1795
01:12:55,060 --> 01:12:53,060
it happens you know you don't plant a

1796
01:12:56,920 --> 01:12:55,070
redwood you know what I'm saying the

1797
01:13:00,220 --> 01:12:56,930
plant redwood see

1798
01:13:02,680 --> 01:13:00,230
and then sort of grows and roots go down

1799
01:13:04,690 --> 01:13:02,690
and the branches go up and then all of a

1800
01:13:06,820 --> 01:13:04,700
sudden it's 200 feet tall but you don't

1801
01:13:09,160 --> 01:13:06,830
plant redwood it's exact same thing

1802
01:13:11,020 --> 01:13:09,170
because I really believe we are dealing

1803
01:13:13,450 --> 01:13:11,030
with entities that have a different

1804
01:13:15,010 --> 01:13:13,460
sense of time than we do and I know that

1805
01:13:17,080 --> 01:13:15,020
just sounds completely insane to some

1806
01:13:20,650 --> 01:13:17,090
people but I really I really just

1807
01:13:22,060 --> 01:13:20,660
believe that yeah it is crazy and even

1808
01:13:23,890 --> 01:13:22,070
though people don't know the name

1809
01:13:27,010 --> 01:13:23,900
Elizabeth Fraser I mean like you said

1810
01:13:29,260 --> 01:13:27,020
her song was chosen for house one of the

1811
01:13:31,240 --> 01:13:29,270
most popular shows ever like there's

1812
01:13:33,670 --> 01:13:31,250
points in the timeline where her music

1813
01:13:35,080 --> 01:13:33,680
does peak to that highest level it's

1814
01:13:37,420 --> 01:13:35,090
just we don't know her name and maybe

1815
01:13:39,550 --> 01:13:37,430
that's because you know we're really

1816
01:13:43,300 --> 01:13:39,560
supposed to know the name of the best of

1817
01:13:46,870 --> 01:13:43,310
the spirit not the host or spell yeah

1818
01:13:48,490 --> 01:13:46,880
well she does Peter Jackson of course

1819
01:13:50,500 --> 01:13:48,500
the director of Lord of the Rings and

1820
01:13:52,810 --> 01:13:50,510
Hobbit is write a ridiculous acolyte of

1821
01:13:56,080 --> 01:13:52,820
Elizabeth Fraser and she's her music -

1822
01:13:59,170 --> 01:13:56,090
well he had her sing in the first two

1823
01:14:00,960 --> 01:13:59,180
Lord of the Rings films and also used

1824
01:14:03,550 --> 01:14:00,970
some of her music for the lovely bones

1825
01:14:05,800 --> 01:14:03,560
that movie that he did after he was done

1826
01:14:07,750 --> 01:14:05,810
with King Kong and the rest of it and of

1827
01:14:09,820 --> 01:14:07,760
course we're really talking about here

1828
01:14:11,470 --> 01:14:09,830
is this connection to David Lynch I mean

1829
01:14:13,780 --> 01:14:11,480
David Lynch you know I read somewhere

1830
01:14:15,970 --> 01:14:13,790
that some point in the eighties he was

1831
01:14:18,070 --> 01:14:15,980
obsessed with Elizabeth Fraser said it

1832
01:14:19,360 --> 01:14:18,080
was his favorite living singer you know

1833
01:14:21,460 --> 01:14:19,370
that's how obsessed he was with her and

1834
01:14:23,950 --> 01:14:21,470
of course you watch Twin Peaks and you

1835
01:14:25,810 --> 01:14:23,960
watch blue velvet blue velvet he wanted

1836
01:14:28,450 --> 01:14:25,820
to use song to the siren and blue velvet

1837
01:14:30,430 --> 01:14:28,460
not only that but he wanted Elizabeth

1838
01:14:32,320 --> 01:14:30,440
Fraser to perform like lip-sync to song

1839
01:14:35,140 --> 01:14:32,330
to the siren there was going to be a

1840
01:14:37,090 --> 01:14:35,150
scene set at the prom you know with

1841
01:14:39,130 --> 01:14:37,100
Geoffrey and the Lordaeron character and

1842
01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:39,140
they were going to be slow dancing to

1843
01:14:42,550 --> 01:14:40,850
the song - aside I mean you can't dance

1844
01:14:44,860 --> 01:14:42,560
assigned to the siren but he was going

1845
01:14:46,390 --> 01:14:44,870
to do that yeah it's too weird yeah I

1846
01:14:47,800 --> 01:14:46,400
mean this really is where the whole you

1847
01:14:49,750 --> 01:14:47,810
know people have watched Twin Peaks the

1848
01:14:51,610 --> 01:14:49,760
return this really is where the whole

1849
01:14:53,110 --> 01:14:51,620
bang bang room concept comes where he

1850
01:14:54,970 --> 01:14:53,120
because people like Nine Inch Nails and

1851
01:14:57,220 --> 01:14:54,980
Eddie Vetter who are all sort of

1852
01:14:59,860 --> 01:14:57,230
contained centrally connected to this

1853
01:15:02,860 --> 01:14:59,870
whole thing as well he has them perform

1854
01:15:04,300 --> 01:15:02,870
to this local bar and he got the

1855
01:15:06,070 --> 01:15:04,310
original idea from that because he was

1856
01:15:08,470 --> 01:15:06,080
so obsessed with song to the siren that

1857
01:15:09,940 --> 01:15:08,480
he wanted to have it you know be the

1858
01:15:12,940 --> 01:15:09,950
centerpiece of blue velvet

1859
01:15:14,170 --> 01:15:12,950
which is really saying something he

1860
01:15:16,450 --> 01:15:14,180
couldn't get the rights to it he lady

1861
01:15:18,520 --> 01:15:16,460
used it for lost highway you know with

1862
01:15:22,660 --> 01:15:18,530
Bill Pullman and Patricia Arquette this

1863
01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:22,670
very climactic love scene that he used

1864
01:15:28,450 --> 01:15:26,330
that for but you know he basically this

1865
01:15:29,860 --> 01:15:28,460
is how intense his obsession with

1866
01:15:33,400 --> 01:15:29,870
Elizabeth Fraser and the Cocteau twins

1867
01:15:36,280 --> 01:15:33,410
are he basically hired a singer named

1868
01:15:39,430 --> 01:15:36,290
Julie Cruz I mean she sang his Cocteau

1869
01:15:41,200 --> 01:15:39,440
twins Elizabeth Fraser sort of analogue

1870
01:15:43,240 --> 01:15:41,210
on blue velvet the mysteries of love

1871
01:15:44,830 --> 01:15:43,250
which is using blue velvet but then he

1872
01:15:46,300 --> 01:15:44,840
has her doing like an entire album or

1873
01:15:48,220 --> 01:15:46,310
it's like his take on the Cocteau twins

1874
01:15:50,380 --> 01:15:48,230
I mean that's what the entire album is

1875
01:15:52,480 --> 01:15:50,390
and he's been very explicit about this

1876
01:15:53,770 --> 01:15:52,490
very upfront about this he was so

1877
01:15:56,020 --> 01:15:53,780
obsessed with Elizabeth Fraser in the

1878
01:15:59,470 --> 01:15:56,030
Cocteau twins that he basically created

1879
01:16:02,590 --> 01:15:59,480
the genre out of it and what this all

1880
01:16:05,020 --> 01:16:02,600
leads to ultimately is Twin Peaks Twin

1881
01:16:07,690 --> 01:16:05,030
Peaks has Elizabeth Fraser and song to

1882
01:16:09,850 --> 01:16:07,700
the siren and it's very DNA and one

1883
01:16:12,820 --> 01:16:09,860
thing that I would argue is that I think

1884
01:16:15,340 --> 01:16:12,830
that his interpretation of this trauma

1885
01:16:16,960 --> 01:16:15,350
that he was hearing in her voice and

1886
01:16:18,640 --> 01:16:16,970
this is very important this one thing

1887
01:16:20,350 --> 01:16:18,650
that I really want people to understand

1888
01:16:22,150 --> 01:16:20,360
here is that this is a story about

1889
01:16:25,440 --> 01:16:22,160
trauma this is a story about childhood

1890
01:16:28,180 --> 01:16:25,450
trauma about abuse and how it

1891
01:16:30,460 --> 01:16:28,190
metastasizes and what it leads to and

1892
01:16:32,800 --> 01:16:30,470
how people express their trauma through

1893
01:16:34,690 --> 01:16:32,810
creativity and and on and on and on but

1894
01:16:36,700 --> 01:16:34,700
I really believe that Laura Parma is

1895
01:16:38,350 --> 01:16:36,710
like his interpretation of this you know

1896
01:16:41,140 --> 01:16:38,360
when you talked about this howling this

1897
01:16:44,950 --> 01:16:41,150
wailing but on these early records it's

1898
01:16:47,440 --> 01:16:44,960
so intense it's this you know she's not

1899
01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:47,450
screaming but it's it's a well and I

1900
01:16:51,400 --> 01:16:49,610
really believe when we see not only do

1901
01:16:53,620 --> 01:16:51,410
we see Laura Palmer screaming and

1902
01:16:55,870 --> 01:16:53,630
wailing in another dimension by the way

1903
01:16:58,120 --> 01:16:55,880
in the Red Room you know in the black

1904
01:17:00,880 --> 01:16:58,130
lodge I mean another dimension but she

1905
01:17:03,460 --> 01:17:00,890
also has those crazy ice blue eyes but

1906
01:17:04,600 --> 01:17:03,470
they're contacts she has these contacts

1907
01:17:06,700 --> 01:17:04,610
on it's supposed to show that she's

1908
01:17:08,500 --> 01:17:06,710
demonically possessed they still don't

1909
01:17:10,270 --> 01:17:08,510
look as weird and scary as Elizabeth

1910
01:17:14,470 --> 01:17:10,280
Frasier's realize did at that point in

1911
01:17:15,970 --> 01:17:14,480
time mmhmm yeah man it's just it is so

1912
01:17:17,310 --> 01:17:15,980
hard to kind of wrap your head around

1913
01:17:19,960 --> 01:17:17,320
the whole thing but it seems like

1914
01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:19,970
powerful people might have recognized

1915
01:17:23,680 --> 01:17:22,010
something special about Elizabeth Fraser

1916
01:17:24,970 --> 01:17:23,690
and tried to in

1917
01:17:27,640 --> 01:17:24,980
incorporated into what they do whether

1918
01:17:29,770 --> 01:17:27,650
it's Peter Jackson or David Lynch and

1919
01:17:33,120 --> 01:17:29,780
then that also does get us to the

1920
01:17:35,770 --> 01:17:33,130
Millennium Dome yes the Millennium Dome

1921
01:17:38,590 --> 01:17:35,780
yeah well first of all let me just say

1922
01:17:41,650 --> 01:17:38,600
this Elizabeth Fraser has been basically

1923
01:17:43,420 --> 01:17:41,660
in seclusion for the past 20 years since

1924
01:17:44,709 --> 01:17:43,430
Jeff Buckley died she's done a couple

1925
01:17:46,930 --> 01:17:44,719
things here and there you know she did

1926
01:17:48,400 --> 01:17:46,940
some film soundtracks usually film

1927
01:17:50,830 --> 01:17:48,410
soundtracks that are very heavily

1928
01:17:53,080 --> 01:17:50,840
connected to the siren and drowning and

1929
01:17:56,050 --> 01:17:53,090
all the rest of it but just I'd have

1930
01:17:59,140 --> 01:17:56,060
completely nowhere completely just out

1931
01:18:01,060 --> 01:17:59,150
of the clear blue sky she appeared at

1932
01:18:06,400 --> 01:18:01,070
Royal Albert Hall

1933
01:18:09,580 --> 01:18:06,410
London named after Prince Albert the

1934
01:18:12,040 --> 01:18:09,590
prince who had died young the husband of

1935
01:18:14,470 --> 01:18:12,050
Queen Victoria so she comes out of

1936
01:18:16,630 --> 01:18:14,480
nowhere for basically like a talk about

1937
01:18:18,820 --> 01:18:16,640
an album that you know wasn't having an

1938
01:18:20,950 --> 01:18:18,830
anniversary is not considered a

1939
01:18:22,630 --> 01:18:20,960
milestone in their discography and I

1940
01:18:23,140 --> 01:18:22,640
just basically had nothing to do with

1941
01:18:26,580 --> 01:18:23,150
anything

1942
01:18:30,670 --> 01:18:26,590
so directing up Prince Albert Hall very

1943
01:18:32,740 --> 01:18:30,680
legendary celebrated venue in the heart

1944
01:18:35,410 --> 01:18:32,750
of London to have Elizabeth Fraser

1945
01:18:37,930 --> 01:18:35,420
appear for absolutely no reason at all

1946
01:18:38,350 --> 01:18:37,940
that anyone can tell I'm just for

1947
01:18:40,780 --> 01:18:38,360
nothing

1948
01:18:42,850 --> 01:18:40,790
to talk about an album that nobody else

1949
01:18:46,720 --> 01:18:42,860
talks about but the thing is that she

1950
01:18:48,010 --> 01:18:46,730
appeared on July 23rd now July 23rd you

1951
01:18:50,080 --> 01:18:48,020
know for people who are robbing in time

1952
01:18:51,760 --> 01:18:50,090
Wilson fans he associates that with

1953
01:18:53,920 --> 01:18:51,770
serious he associates that with the

1954
01:18:55,870 --> 01:18:53,930
rising of Sirius what is the rising of

1955
01:19:00,450 --> 01:18:55,880
Sirius the rising of Sirius is how the

1956
01:19:02,950 --> 01:19:00,460
Egyptians marked the floods of the Nile

1957
01:19:05,290 --> 01:19:02,960
okay this is what I'm talking about here

1958
01:19:07,090 --> 01:19:05,300
so July 23rd is a day that has

1959
01:19:09,689 --> 01:19:07,100
significance to some people in a certain

1960
01:19:12,100 --> 01:19:09,699
I think OTO people and things like that

1961
01:19:14,650 --> 01:19:12,110
recognize this day as the rising of

1962
01:19:16,540 --> 01:19:14,660
Sirius which is associated with the

1963
01:19:18,760 --> 01:19:16,550
rising the floods a few weeks later

1964
01:19:22,930 --> 01:19:18,770
what's the big story in the news floods

1965
01:19:24,450 --> 01:19:22,940
I mean this is like what you understand

1966
01:19:27,780 --> 01:19:24,460
what I'm saying

1967
01:19:29,190 --> 01:19:27,790
this is a venue run by the British crown

1968
01:19:33,180 --> 01:19:29,200
not just the British government but the

1969
01:19:35,550 --> 01:19:33,190
British crown decides to have Elizabeth

1970
01:19:36,030 --> 01:19:35,560
Fraser show up for for absolutely no

1971
01:19:38,190 --> 01:19:36,040
reason

1972
01:19:39,690 --> 01:19:38,200
on this very weird and symbolically

1973
01:19:42,510 --> 01:19:39,700
significant day that has to do with

1974
01:19:44,940 --> 01:19:42,520
floods few weeks later oh gee what's it

1975
01:19:48,619 --> 01:19:44,950
going on floods I mean this is how crazy

1976
01:19:50,479 --> 01:19:48,629
this yeah it's deep

1977
01:19:52,729 --> 01:19:50,489
so you want to be talking with the one

1978
01:19:54,830 --> 01:19:52,739
you don't know it's cool man I mean it's

1979
01:19:56,330 --> 01:19:54,840
all great but that's how you get into

1980
01:19:58,429 --> 01:19:56,340
the bigger picture you know the

1981
01:20:01,219 --> 01:19:58,439
worldwide geopolitical picture and

1982
01:20:04,489 --> 01:20:01,229
outside of just the musical genre we're

1983
01:20:05,869 --> 01:20:04,499
talking about so let's go back to

1984
01:20:07,639 --> 01:20:05,879
Britain let's go back to the heart of

1985
01:20:10,339 --> 01:20:07,649
London I don't know how many people

1986
01:20:13,069 --> 01:20:10,349
realize that the Thames river is also

1987
01:20:15,919 --> 01:20:13,079
called the ISIS are you familiar with

1988
01:20:17,750 --> 01:20:15,929
that I heard that from you yeah okay so

1989
01:20:19,549 --> 01:20:17,760
the Thames river I mean this doesn't

1990
01:20:22,009 --> 01:20:19,559
mean just finding this out on some weird

1991
01:20:23,599 --> 01:20:22,019
conspiracy websites in it you can look

1992
01:20:28,719 --> 01:20:23,609
this up on Wikipedia it's on Wikipedia

1993
01:20:32,810 --> 01:20:28,729
so the Thames river everyone remember is

1994
01:20:34,099 --> 01:20:32,820
the Millennium y2k all these kind of

1995
01:20:35,479 --> 01:20:34,109
things all this stuff was going to go on

1996
01:20:37,790 --> 01:20:35,489
you know the computers gonna shut down

1997
01:20:39,349 --> 01:20:37,800
we're gonna be reduced to barbarism blah

1998
01:20:41,509 --> 01:20:39,359
blah blah blah up and down the line I

1999
01:20:43,189 --> 01:20:41,519
mean I never believed the y2k thing

2000
01:20:45,799 --> 01:20:43,199
because you're when I stopped believing

2001
01:20:49,009 --> 01:20:45,809
in y2k when I got my credit cards that

2002
01:20:50,779 --> 01:20:49,019
had the year 2000 printed on oh maybe

2003
01:20:53,000 --> 01:20:50,789
the computers can handle each year 2000

2004
01:20:55,759 --> 01:20:53,010
so anyway this was a big deal so Tony

2005
01:20:57,619 --> 01:20:55,769
Blair you know new labor New Britain I

2006
01:20:59,719 --> 01:20:57,629
mean it was Britpop it was a big

2007
01:21:01,639 --> 01:20:59,729
exciting time Harry Potter James Bond it

2008
01:21:04,819 --> 01:21:01,649
was like swinging London all over again

2009
01:21:06,349 --> 01:21:04,829
so his project it actually started on

2010
01:21:07,879 --> 01:21:06,359
the John major before him but his

2011
01:21:10,279 --> 01:21:07,889
project was going to be the Millennium

2012
01:21:12,409 --> 01:21:10,289
Dome and the Millennium Dome turned out

2013
01:21:16,330 --> 01:21:12,419
to be a friggin boondoggle but it was

2014
01:21:19,729 --> 01:21:16,340
going to be this Center this multimedia

2015
01:21:21,679 --> 01:21:19,739
installation shaped like a dome right on

2016
01:21:23,839 --> 01:21:21,689
the heart of the river I mean I don't

2017
01:21:25,849 --> 01:21:23,849
need to explain the symbolism there so

2018
01:21:28,399 --> 01:21:25,859
it's crypto Masonic up and down the line

2019
01:21:30,500 --> 01:21:28,409
and what the Millennium Dome was going

2020
01:21:32,330 --> 01:21:30,510
to be the way it was gonna be introduced

2021
01:21:34,429 --> 01:21:32,340
to the public you know the way it was

2022
01:21:36,349 --> 01:21:34,439
going to be come like this destination

2023
01:21:38,330 --> 01:21:36,359
for everybody it was going to become the

2024
01:21:40,040 --> 01:21:38,340
new center of cultural London was the

2025
01:21:44,379 --> 01:21:40,050
Millennium Dome didn't work out that way

2026
01:21:46,640 --> 01:21:44,389
but whatever so they hired Peter Gabriel

2027
01:21:50,710 --> 01:21:46,650
arch

2028
01:21:53,300 --> 01:21:50,720
Bond villain Global's Peter Gabriel to

2029
01:21:55,070 --> 01:21:53,310
produce the soundtrack for what they

2030
01:21:57,320 --> 01:21:55,080
were calling the Millennium Dome show

2031
01:22:00,140 --> 01:21:57,330
and the Millennium Dome show was going

2032
01:22:01,760 --> 01:22:00,150
to be produced by this guy who since

2033
01:22:03,560 --> 01:22:01,770
passed away called Mark Fisher and Mark

2034
01:22:04,970 --> 01:22:03,570
Fisher became really well known him the

2035
01:22:08,180 --> 01:22:04,980
first thing he did was that he did the

2036
01:22:10,070 --> 01:22:08,190
wall show for Pink Floyd in 1980 which

2037
01:22:12,290 --> 01:22:10,080
is you know very big kind of multimedia

2038
01:22:13,880 --> 01:22:12,300
production and that's where he sort of

2039
01:22:15,440 --> 01:22:13,890
made his bones and then you shoe hired

2040
01:22:17,630 --> 01:22:15,450
him and the Rolling Stones hired him and

2041
01:22:19,690 --> 01:22:17,640
their Madonna hired him and then I think

2042
01:22:23,210 --> 01:22:19,700
Lady Gaga hired I mean he sort of became

2043
01:22:26,150 --> 01:22:23,220
the go-to guy for big stadium you know

2044
01:22:28,370 --> 01:22:26,160
big football stadium spectacle for for

2045
01:22:31,490 --> 01:22:28,380
rock groups and stuff right for big

2046
01:22:34,760 --> 01:22:31,500
public rituals yeah essentially rituals

2047
01:22:37,670 --> 01:22:34,770
and so he was hired to produce this

2048
01:22:39,410 --> 01:22:37,680
Millennium Dome show so what does the

2049
01:22:41,420 --> 01:22:39,420
Millennium Dome show about well you

2050
01:22:45,410 --> 01:22:41,430
think it would be about the history of

2051
01:22:48,020 --> 01:22:45,420
Britain as an empire and it's evolving

2052
01:22:50,260 --> 01:22:48,030
into the Commonwealth of Nations and all

2053
01:22:53,330 --> 01:22:50,270
that you know the diversity and

2054
01:22:55,010 --> 01:22:53,340
economics and you know London being the

2055
01:22:56,150 --> 01:22:55,020
new world capital and blah blah blah

2056
01:22:57,740 --> 01:22:56,160
blah blah that's what you would think

2057
01:22:58,550 --> 01:22:57,750
would be about right I mean like that

2058
01:23:01,220 --> 01:22:58,560
nationalism

2059
01:23:04,010 --> 01:23:01,230
yeah autism that's not what it was about

2060
01:23:07,040 --> 01:23:04,020
I thought it was about you know what is

2061
01:23:09,710 --> 01:23:07,050
about is about the earth people and the

2062
01:23:13,640 --> 01:23:09,720
sky people who are basically demons of

2063
01:23:15,740 --> 01:23:13,650
the air having the war and then the war

2064
01:23:19,010 --> 01:23:15,750
between the earth people and the sky

2065
01:23:20,840 --> 01:23:19,020
people these flying beings that you know

2066
01:23:23,420 --> 01:23:20,850
look like demons flying around in the

2067
01:23:26,660 --> 01:23:23,430
air you know an earth girl and a sky boy

2068
01:23:30,520 --> 01:23:26,670
comes together and they create this new

2069
01:23:32,960 --> 01:23:30,530
hybrid being of humanity and demon

2070
01:23:36,410 --> 01:23:32,970
literally you know it's like the nipple

2071
01:23:38,990 --> 01:23:36,420
it's Genesis 6 right it's a story yes so

2072
01:23:41,150 --> 01:23:39,000
this is a crave real yeah so Gabriel

2073
01:23:44,840 --> 01:23:41,160
Peter Gabriel what where did he get his

2074
01:23:46,490 --> 01:23:44,850
start in Genesis it gets even crazy that

2075
01:23:48,140 --> 01:23:46,500
because Elizabeth for ages she's only

2076
01:23:51,590 --> 01:23:48,150
done one concert in the past 20 years

2077
01:23:52,850 --> 01:23:51,600
and she did it and it was kind of sad to

2078
01:23:55,310 --> 01:23:52,860
see because she's not the same person

2079
01:23:58,820 --> 01:23:55,320
anymore but she had the original

2080
01:24:00,320 --> 01:23:58,830
guitarist from Genesis so this is how it

2081
01:24:03,200 --> 01:24:00,330
always seems like this is being put to

2082
01:24:05,660 --> 01:24:03,210
by people who have really really bad OCD

2083
01:24:08,290 --> 01:24:05,670
and everything has to line up exactly ah

2084
01:24:11,210 --> 01:24:08,300
so this millennium show is basically

2085
01:24:14,120 --> 01:24:11,220
every Christian conspiracy theory you've

2086
01:24:16,640 --> 01:24:14,130
ever heard about Nephilim played out

2087
01:24:19,280 --> 01:24:16,650
literally every day literally every day

2088
01:24:22,040 --> 01:24:19,290
for the entirety of the year 2000 in the

2089
01:24:24,620 --> 01:24:22,050
heart of London on the temps on the ISIS

2090
01:24:26,480 --> 01:24:24,630
but it gets even better or worse

2091
01:24:28,910 --> 01:24:26,490
depending on your point of view the

2092
01:24:31,310 --> 01:24:28,920
character that Elizabeth Fraser sings is

2093
01:24:32,900 --> 01:24:31,320
his character name's Sophia oh gee where

2094
01:24:33,860 --> 01:24:32,910
did we hear that any forces feel oh

2095
01:24:35,690 --> 01:24:33,870
there must be a coincidence

2096
01:24:38,120 --> 01:24:35,700
she plays his character named Sofia she

2097
01:24:42,620 --> 01:24:38,130
becomes the mother of the new horse the

2098
01:24:45,590 --> 01:24:42,630
new men of renown well who incidentally

2099
01:24:48,560 --> 01:24:45,600
flies off in a flying saucer but she

2100
01:24:50,840 --> 01:24:48,570
falls in love with the sky boy and she

2101
01:24:53,120 --> 01:24:50,850
becomes very sympathetic to the sky boys

2102
01:24:56,060 --> 01:24:53,130
plight because these sky boys or sky

2103
01:24:57,500 --> 01:24:56,070
people or demons of the air whatever you

2104
01:24:59,480 --> 01:24:57,510
want to look at it you know they're

2105
01:25:01,670 --> 01:24:59,490
imprisoned and their technology is

2106
01:25:03,860 --> 01:25:01,680
stolen and where did we hear this all

2107
01:25:06,530 --> 01:25:03,870
before I mean this is how crazy it gets

2108
01:25:08,060 --> 01:25:06,540
so you know the the sky people are in

2109
01:25:10,010 --> 01:25:08,070
prison they taken prisoner their

2110
01:25:13,640 --> 01:25:10,020
technology is stolen and then the earth

2111
01:25:14,840 --> 01:25:13,650
people build this horrible Tower this

2112
01:25:17,060 --> 01:25:14,850
giant Tower

2113
01:25:19,580 --> 01:25:17,070
it's literally depicted as a Tower of

2114
01:25:21,290 --> 01:25:19,590
Babel in the production you know the

2115
01:25:25,670 --> 01:25:21,300
stage production in the Millennium Dome

2116
01:25:27,220 --> 01:25:25,680
and what does Sofia do she blows up the

2117
01:25:29,480 --> 01:25:27,230
tower

2118
01:25:31,730 --> 01:25:29,490
what right

2119
01:25:34,760 --> 01:25:31,740
the Tower is blown up through controlled

2120
01:25:36,920 --> 01:25:34,770
demolition that's Sophia the new Isis

2121
01:25:38,750 --> 01:25:36,930
new mother of the new Horace the new

2122
01:25:40,910 --> 01:25:38,760
mother you know of the race of the men

2123
01:25:44,360 --> 01:25:40,920
of renown the Giants on the earth in

2124
01:25:46,010 --> 01:25:44,370
those days on and on Genesis Genesis six

2125
01:25:46,550 --> 01:25:46,020
I mean it just never literally never

2126
01:25:49,190 --> 01:25:46,560
ends

2127
01:25:51,290 --> 01:25:49,200
you know she blows up the tower but it

2128
01:25:53,330 --> 01:25:51,300
isn't just a tower see because what it

2129
01:25:55,190 --> 01:25:53,340
is is that there's a tower but inside it

2130
01:25:57,860 --> 01:25:55,200
there's another tower so what she really

2131
01:26:00,950 --> 01:25:57,870
does is she blows up the two towers and

2132
01:26:02,840 --> 01:26:00,960
then my god you watch this you can walk

2133
01:26:05,840 --> 01:26:02,850
go on YouTube look up millennium dome

2134
01:26:09,470 --> 01:26:05,850
and you can see this and you go Jesus

2135
01:26:12,320 --> 01:26:09,480
that looks an awful lot like 9/11 dude

2136
01:26:14,900 --> 01:26:12,330
it'll really looks a lot like North

2137
01:26:19,850 --> 01:26:14,910
Tower South Tower building seven the way

2138
01:26:21,980 --> 01:26:19,860
they fell I really just like huh right

2139
01:26:24,200 --> 01:26:21,990
the year before it actually happens they

2140
01:26:26,900 --> 01:26:24,210
do this play every day of the year 2000

2141
01:26:29,120 --> 01:26:26,910
and then in 2001 it's like that was a

2142
01:26:32,240 --> 01:26:29,130
almost like a calling or some type of

2143
01:26:34,700 --> 01:26:32,250
ritual to usher it in yeah and of course

2144
01:26:35,270 --> 01:26:34,710
9/11 is New Year's Day in the Coptic

2145
01:26:42,880 --> 01:26:35,280
calendar

2146
01:26:45,170 --> 01:26:42,890
Egyptians who see themselves as the true

2147
01:26:46,760 --> 01:26:45,180
descendants of the Pharaohs you know the

2148
01:26:48,440 --> 01:26:46,770
true descendants of firaon aqui gypped

2149
01:26:51,200 --> 01:26:48,450
they see all these other Egyptians as

2150
01:26:53,210 --> 01:26:51,210
invaders from Arab countries and whatnot

2151
01:26:58,490 --> 01:26:53,220
they see themselves as the real Egyptian

2152
01:27:03,890 --> 01:26:58,500
so like that would be the start of the

2153
01:27:06,380 --> 01:27:03,900
millennium okay but I don't feel like

2154
01:27:09,140 --> 01:27:06,390
this is so important to 9/11 and I don't

2155
01:27:11,030 --> 01:27:09,150
feel like anybody nails all these parts

2156
01:27:12,200 --> 01:27:11,040
and we just seriously connected this

2157
01:27:15,500 --> 01:27:12,210
whole Fraser saga

2158
01:27:17,660 --> 01:27:15,510
nobody even remembers the Millennium

2159
01:27:19,250 --> 01:27:17,670
Dome show right and anybody who

2160
01:27:21,410 --> 01:27:19,260
remembers that like people who saw it at

2161
01:27:26,270 --> 01:27:21,420
the time they don't make the connection

2162
01:27:28,250 --> 01:27:26,280
to 9/11 but it's like oh that's 9/11

2163
01:27:33,470 --> 01:27:28,260
that's what they were channeling or

2164
01:27:34,940 --> 01:27:33,480
trying to invoke I mean another point

2165
01:27:38,090 --> 01:27:34,950
about the Coptic calendars you said it

2166
01:27:40,340 --> 01:27:38,100
was the year 1717 and I guess what's the

2167
01:27:41,240 --> 01:27:40,350
importance of that date in particular is

2168
01:27:43,100 --> 01:27:41,250
there any is there some kind of

2169
01:27:45,770 --> 01:27:43,110
numerology there well there's two

2170
01:27:48,320 --> 01:27:45,780
important since here I mean 17 is a very

2171
01:27:51,500 --> 01:27:48,330
important number because it's the day of

2172
01:27:55,070 --> 01:27:51,510
the death you know the date of the death

2173
01:27:57,950 --> 01:27:55,080
of Osiris so 17 has and you know the

2174
01:28:00,020 --> 01:27:57,960
Romans came to see 17 is very unlucky it

2175
01:28:01,730 --> 01:28:00,030
had these negative connotations and 17

2176
01:28:04,430 --> 01:28:01,740
you know I've talked about this a lot on

2177
01:28:06,530 --> 01:28:04,440
the blog Obama seemed to be fixated on

2178
01:28:09,320 --> 01:28:06,540
17 he always made these 17 minute

2179
01:28:13,480 --> 01:28:09,330
speeches now up and down the line but 17

2180
01:28:17,900 --> 01:28:13,490
17 is the official start of Freemasonry

2181
01:28:19,190 --> 01:28:17,910
hmm midsummer midsummer fires st. John's

2182
01:28:22,910 --> 01:28:19,200
day 17

2183
01:28:27,140 --> 01:28:22,920
17 so it's just like yeah nice little

2184
01:28:30,110 --> 01:28:27,150
anniversary ritual for them oh yeah it's

2185
01:28:32,870 --> 01:28:30,120
just like you see this stuff and you

2186
01:28:34,940 --> 01:28:32,880
just go your first of all if people go

2187
01:28:37,070 --> 01:28:34,950
oh well you know this is what they do in

2188
01:28:38,990 --> 01:28:37,080
certain extent I think that's right I

2189
01:28:40,580 --> 01:28:39,000
think that this is what they do I mean

2190
01:28:42,080 --> 01:28:40,590
this is how things work you know we can

2191
01:28:44,180 --> 01:28:42,090
talk about how this plays into the whole

2192
01:28:45,770 --> 01:28:44,190
NFL thing and the Grammy Awards and all

2193
01:28:46,880 --> 01:28:45,780
the rest of it in a moment but yeah I

2194
01:28:49,490 --> 01:28:46,890
mean this is what they do they put on

2195
01:28:51,710 --> 01:28:49,500
these rituals but it's usually it's not

2196
01:28:55,490 --> 01:28:51,720
like really this well or ended it's not

2197
01:28:57,500 --> 01:28:55,500
this I mean it just literally seems like

2198
01:29:01,760 --> 01:28:57,510
somebody with all the time in the world

2199
01:29:04,430 --> 01:29:01,770
right and really really really bad OCD

2200
01:29:06,380 --> 01:29:04,440
just said all right I'm gonna plan this

2201
01:29:10,070 --> 01:29:06,390
thing out now I'm gonna start in like

2202
01:29:12,530 --> 01:29:10,080
you know 1981 or no I'm gonna start in

2203
01:29:17,810 --> 01:29:12,540
1969 and then nothing's gonna happen

2204
01:29:19,820 --> 01:29:17,820
until 1981 and then 1983 in the 1984 and

2205
01:29:21,980 --> 01:29:19,830
then 90 you know it's like this is not

2206
01:29:24,560 --> 01:29:21,990
how they work right quote-unquote day

2207
01:29:26,630 --> 01:29:24,570
yeah they put on spectacles and rituals

2208
01:29:28,850 --> 01:29:26,640
like you know go to our tunnel and all

2209
01:29:30,980 --> 01:29:28,860
the rest of it yeah but absolutely nope

2210
01:29:32,300 --> 01:29:30,990
no argument I'm here but yeah I think

2211
01:29:34,400 --> 01:29:32,310
there are elements of that and he have

2212
01:29:37,970 --> 01:29:34,410
to be sure but at the same time it's

2213
01:29:40,400 --> 01:29:37,980
like nobody works like this it seems too

2214
01:29:42,920 --> 01:29:40,410
precise for human hands

2215
01:29:45,200 --> 01:29:42,930
yeah it literally is 2% and there's so

2216
01:29:48,500 --> 01:29:45,210
many things like so she meets Jeff

2217
01:29:49,550 --> 01:29:48,510
Buckley well first she meets him or she

2218
01:29:52,310 --> 01:29:49,560
he meets the band I don't know if he

2219
01:29:54,110 --> 01:29:52,320
meets her in particular in 1990 after

2220
01:29:57,170 --> 01:29:54,120
she sings yet another song where she's

2221
01:29:58,550 --> 01:29:57,180
channeling the siren where

2222
01:30:01,420 --> 01:29:58,560
I got to tell you these lyrics because

2223
01:30:03,680 --> 01:30:01,430
there's so friggin creepy so it's a song

2224
01:30:04,970 --> 01:30:03,690
the title is ridiculous it doesn't have

2225
01:30:06,920 --> 01:30:04,980
anything to do with sung like most of

2226
01:30:07,580 --> 01:30:06,930
the songs do but it's the song where

2227
01:30:09,830 --> 01:30:07,590
she's saying

2228
01:30:12,140 --> 01:30:09,840
I saw her mermaid in the lagoon class

2229
01:30:15,800 --> 01:30:12,150
OVA and the lagoon cassava is in Greece

2230
01:30:17,780 --> 01:30:15,810
and it's where Lord Byron died he died

2231
01:30:20,960 --> 01:30:17,790
on the shore of the lagoon class of

2232
01:30:22,850 --> 01:30:20,970
eight he was injured in battle and he

2233
01:30:26,270 --> 01:30:22,860
was helping the Greeks over you know it

2234
01:30:28,760 --> 01:30:26,280
was part of the Greek revolution at the

2235
01:30:31,070 --> 01:30:28,770
time so just so smart this woman is

2236
01:30:33,350 --> 01:30:31,080
saying she's pointing to Byron she knows

2237
01:30:35,900 --> 01:30:33,360
buyer and she knows where he died she's

2238
01:30:38,450 --> 01:30:35,910
very literate but then this chorus is

2239
01:30:38,840 --> 01:30:38,460
like gray water hoist me down under the

2240
01:30:45,170 --> 01:30:38,850
water

2241
01:30:49,930 --> 01:30:45,180
in that first verse and then the next

2242
01:30:52,730 --> 01:30:49,940
verse is so until the hour my Cherie pea

2243
01:30:55,040 --> 01:30:52,740
chorus what she's saying is that you

2244
01:30:57,290 --> 01:30:55,050
know until I meet you my dear heart boy

2245
01:31:00,230 --> 01:30:57,300
because like it's sort of this patois

2246
01:31:02,600 --> 01:31:00,240
mixing French and Hindi she's saying you

2247
01:31:04,850 --> 01:31:02,610
know until the hour my dear sweet boy

2248
01:31:07,040 --> 01:31:04,860
and then you know the rest of it is

2249
01:31:09,080 --> 01:31:07,050
about drowning in the gray water which

2250
01:31:10,610 --> 01:31:09,090
is what Jeff Buckley literally donned in

2251
01:31:13,880 --> 01:31:10,620
you know the water is well known for

2252
01:31:17,480 --> 01:31:13,890
being gray and it's just like oh this is

2253
01:31:19,880 --> 01:31:17,490
really really really scary and it

2254
01:31:23,210 --> 01:31:19,890
doesn't sound scary until you understand

2255
01:31:26,380 --> 01:31:23,220
that not only is this explicitly talking

2256
01:31:29,030 --> 01:31:26,390
about his death but it's also saying you

2257
01:31:31,520 --> 01:31:29,040
know until the hour when we meet my dear

2258
01:31:33,770 --> 01:31:31,530
sweet boy it's like that's not her

2259
01:31:36,320 --> 01:31:33,780
talking yeah you know that sounds crazy

2260
01:31:37,570 --> 01:31:36,330
people just think oh this guy is nuts as

2261
01:31:40,040 --> 01:31:37,580
guys off his rocker

2262
01:31:41,720 --> 01:31:40,050
mmm think so I don't think that's her

2263
01:31:42,500 --> 01:31:41,730
talking you know she songs right

2264
01:31:46,660 --> 01:31:42,510
themselves

2265
01:31:49,370 --> 01:31:46,670
she said she was channeling some

2266
01:31:53,630 --> 01:31:49,380
disincarnate being I just take her at

2267
01:31:55,820 --> 01:31:53,640
her word yeah exactly exactly man so

2268
01:31:57,020 --> 01:31:55,830
anyway people go on like whatever I

2269
01:31:58,730 --> 01:31:57,030
don't care about this woman I've never

2270
01:32:00,440 --> 01:31:58,740
heard of her blah blah blah you know

2271
01:32:02,930 --> 01:32:00,450
indie haircut rock I don't care about

2272
01:32:05,300 --> 01:32:02,940
this Katy's crap well the thing is is

2273
01:32:08,800 --> 01:32:05,310
that this woman is almost like she's

2274
01:32:10,840 --> 01:32:08,810
almost like the beta test for this whole

2275
01:32:12,610 --> 01:32:10,850
generation of pop star

2276
01:32:14,430 --> 01:32:12,620
that we're seeing now you know your

2277
01:32:17,950 --> 01:32:14,440
Miley Cyrus your Beyonce or Rihanna

2278
01:32:19,120 --> 01:32:17,960
Nicki Minaj I mean Lady gaga you know so

2279
01:32:21,700 --> 01:32:19,130
like the whole thing where they're

2280
01:32:24,360 --> 01:32:21,710
playing with all this occult symbolism

2281
01:32:26,980 --> 01:32:24,370
and they're also playing with all this

2282
01:32:29,260 --> 01:32:26,990
dissociation and you know a lot of them

2283
01:32:32,440 --> 01:32:29,270
really hark back to the 80s kind of

2284
01:32:34,390 --> 01:32:32,450
sounds you know they use a key sound you

2285
01:32:37,510 --> 01:32:34,400
know that's very all over the radio

2286
01:32:40,600 --> 01:32:37,520
these days so she's kind of like the

2287
01:32:42,190 --> 01:32:40,610
beta test of it except for like she's

2288
01:32:44,880 --> 01:32:42,200
singing songs about things that are

2289
01:32:48,970 --> 01:32:44,890
gonna happen 15 years from when they

2290
01:32:50,650 --> 01:32:48,980
were recorded and not only do we have

2291
01:32:52,330 --> 01:32:50,660
Jeff Buckley which is kind of gimme she

2292
01:32:54,730 --> 01:32:52,340
had a relationship with we also have

2293
01:32:58,150 --> 01:32:54,740
Chris Cornell and then we have heat

2294
01:33:00,970 --> 01:32:58,160
Ledger right direct tie-in and he did a

2295
01:33:02,380 --> 01:33:00,980
movie called I forget the title right

2296
01:33:05,170 --> 01:33:02,390
now but it was about drug addiction and

2297
01:33:07,690 --> 01:33:05,180
it hundy candy right yeah and it

2298
01:33:10,330 --> 01:33:07,700
features song to the siren but it also

2299
01:33:13,720 --> 01:33:10,340
features this very weird scene with

2300
01:33:16,360 --> 01:33:13,730
honey in it and honey you know if you go

2301
01:33:18,160 --> 01:33:16,370
to the blog honey really plays into this

2302
01:33:20,800 --> 01:33:18,170
other crazy song that she's singing

2303
01:33:22,600 --> 01:33:20,810
about exactly where and exactly how Jeff

2304
01:33:24,790 --> 01:33:22,610
Buckley is gonna die in this weird sort

2305
01:33:27,520 --> 01:33:24,800
of a cult code that's recorded you know

2306
01:33:29,770 --> 01:33:27,530
14 years before it happens so he gets so

2307
01:33:32,800 --> 01:33:29,780
sucked into it you know I show exactly

2308
01:33:34,630 --> 01:33:32,810
where he lived he literally lives on the

2309
01:33:36,190 --> 01:33:34,640
other end of a block with as a Starbucks

2310
01:33:38,950 --> 01:33:36,200
and you know there's something else that

2311
01:33:40,720 --> 01:33:38,960
ties into the siren and then I show like

2312
01:33:42,190 --> 01:33:40,730
within walking distance of his old

2313
01:33:44,380 --> 01:33:42,200
apartment he lived on Broome Street

2314
01:33:46,660 --> 01:33:44,390
before he passed away you know there

2315
01:33:49,600 --> 01:33:46,670
were these weird landmarks that all tie

2316
01:33:52,270 --> 01:33:49,610
directly into a particular Cocteau twins

2317
01:33:53,140 --> 01:33:52,280
album the album that has Lorelei on it

2318
01:33:58,210 --> 01:33:53,150
and you just go

2319
01:34:00,670 --> 01:33:58,220
uh-uh this just doesn't it's like I

2320
01:34:02,890 --> 01:34:00,680
really starting to wonder if what people

2321
01:34:05,560 --> 01:34:02,900
like Elon Musk talk that we're just

2322
01:34:08,260 --> 01:34:05,570
living in this simulation this is just

2323
01:34:09,910 --> 01:34:08,270
some weird sim that we're living in this

2324
01:34:12,190 --> 01:34:09,920
is like some weird video game somebody's

2325
01:34:15,070 --> 01:34:12,200
playing when you see this stuff just

2326
01:34:18,130 --> 01:34:15,080
pile up on top of each other endlessly

2327
01:34:20,800 --> 01:34:18,140
you go I think he might be may be onto

2328
01:34:22,090 --> 01:34:20,810
something there right you know I mean

2329
01:34:24,390 --> 01:34:22,100
because the stuff is not supposed to

2330
01:34:28,120 --> 01:34:24,400
happen in a causal reality

2331
01:34:30,520 --> 01:34:28,130
Yeah right on then I love the work you

2332
01:34:32,320 --> 01:34:30,530
do and it's really exciting for me when

2333
01:34:34,300 --> 01:34:32,330
I know we're gonna record a show and

2334
01:34:36,820 --> 01:34:34,310
release the show because you are really

2335
01:34:38,380 --> 01:34:36,830
on that short list of people I like to

2336
01:34:39,760 --> 01:34:38,390
talk to you and really highlight their

2337
01:34:41,770 --> 01:34:39,770
work and like I get excited about

2338
01:34:44,020 --> 01:34:41,780
pressing the publish button when the

2339
01:34:46,330 --> 01:34:44,030
episode goes out because I know it's

2340
01:34:48,700 --> 01:34:46,340
gonna blow minds and you know I can't

2341
01:34:51,010 --> 01:34:48,710
have a guess from the short list every

2342
01:34:52,300 --> 01:34:51,020
week because there's just obviously the

2343
01:34:55,060 --> 01:34:52,310
nature of a short list is that it's

2344
01:34:58,030 --> 01:34:55,070
short but I love it man it really is

2345
01:34:59,830 --> 01:34:58,040
awesome we've spent so much time talking

2346
01:35:02,740 --> 01:34:59,840
today I think the first time I hit you

2347
01:35:05,260 --> 01:35:02,750
up was close to 9:00 a.m. and it's now

2348
01:35:07,390 --> 01:35:05,270
almost 4:00 p.m. and we've been talking

2349
01:35:09,790 --> 01:35:07,400
back and forth about doing this all day

2350
01:35:12,010 --> 01:35:09,800
and I think we're gonna release a really

2351
01:35:15,430 --> 01:35:12,020
awesome show and I hope people go to the

2352
01:35:17,200 --> 01:35:15,440
blog to really digest not only the

2353
01:35:19,570 --> 01:35:17,210
details we couldn't talk about but also

2354
01:35:21,070 --> 01:35:19,580
the pictures you show it adds the visual

2355
01:35:25,210 --> 01:35:21,080
aid that's kind of necessary for this

2356
01:35:29,710 --> 01:35:25,220
and check out some of Frazier's music it

2357
01:35:31,810 --> 01:35:29,720
is pretty eerie and man I guess you know

2358
01:35:32,860 --> 01:35:31,820
we are wrapping this up is there

2359
01:35:35,080 --> 01:35:32,870
anything else that can be said in

2360
01:35:36,820 --> 01:35:35,090
summary in regards to the times were in

2361
01:35:38,530 --> 01:35:36,830
and what people should maybe be most

2362
01:35:42,760 --> 01:35:38,540
aware of or look for what's the Kris

2363
01:35:44,290 --> 01:35:42,770
Noll survival plan these days ah geez I

2364
01:35:47,290 --> 01:35:44,300
don't even know if I have one I it's

2365
01:35:49,630 --> 01:35:47,300
like no one's gonna survive enjoy every

2366
01:35:52,030 --> 01:35:49,640
day Touche

2367
01:35:54,640 --> 01:35:52,040
you know enjoy enjoy every day as best

2368
01:35:58,780 --> 01:35:54,650
you can you love the people around you

2369
01:36:01,810 --> 01:35:58,790
be kind of strangers you know yeah you

2370
01:36:03,910 --> 01:36:01,820
never know what's going to happen

2371
01:36:06,100 --> 01:36:03,920
keep your mind free and clear don't get

2372
01:36:09,100 --> 01:36:06,110
caught up in other people's Crusades yes

2373
01:36:12,660 --> 01:36:09,110
you know just uh don't don't become

2374
01:36:15,550 --> 01:36:12,670
cannon fodder for somebody else's game

2375
01:36:17,860 --> 01:36:15,560
just keep it all clear and keep your

2376
01:36:19,450 --> 01:36:17,870
mind straight and I mean that's that's

2377
01:36:24,400 --> 01:36:19,460
really the only benefit of any of this

2378
01:36:28,750 --> 01:36:24,410
is keeping out of other people's traps

2379
01:36:30,550 --> 01:36:28,760
yes so well said to me that's the like

2380
01:36:33,340 --> 01:36:30,560
you know like what is the benefit of

2381
01:36:35,890 --> 01:36:33,350
knowing any of this well you don't watch

2382
01:36:41,080 --> 01:36:35,900
CNN and think that you're watching

2383
01:36:45,000 --> 01:36:41,090
reality or Fox News or Infowars or ABC

2384
01:36:48,310 --> 01:36:45,010
or NBC or CBS or whatever you know just

2385
01:36:50,320 --> 01:36:48,320
you're not watching reality because you

2386
01:36:52,660 --> 01:36:50,330
know people who watch that stuff always

2387
01:36:55,090 --> 01:36:52,670
end up getting upset getting angry

2388
01:36:59,590 --> 01:36:55,100
getting angry at other people you know I

2389
01:37:02,170 --> 01:36:59,600
mean people who watch Young Turks or

2390
01:37:05,200 --> 01:37:02,180
Alex Jones they just all they just

2391
01:37:07,150 --> 01:37:05,210
always pissed off they're always angry

2392
01:37:09,370 --> 01:37:07,160
you know I won't notice that especially

2393
01:37:11,800 --> 01:37:09,380
these days they're always loose like you

2394
01:37:14,979 --> 01:37:11,810
know it's like and it's so easily set

2395
01:37:16,720 --> 01:37:14,989
off and this so you know just cause I

2396
01:37:18,910 --> 01:37:16,730
mean I'm having this problem when I'm on

2397
01:37:20,560 --> 01:37:18,920
my comments section you know I'm just

2398
01:37:24,040 --> 01:37:20,570
kind of getting bombarded by like people

2399
01:37:26,080 --> 01:37:24,050
are just like so angry and like blinking

2400
01:37:28,270 --> 01:37:26,090
like things on me like I had anything to

2401
01:37:31,420 --> 01:37:28,280
do with it it's like hey man you know

2402
01:37:34,390 --> 01:37:31,430
it's just like people are just so you

2403
01:37:37,360 --> 01:37:34,400
know becoming extremists and becoming

2404
01:37:40,330 --> 01:37:37,370
like really really ultra sensitive and

2405
01:37:42,070 --> 01:37:40,340
really easy to piss off and I'm just

2406
01:37:44,650 --> 01:37:42,080
like I can't deal with it anymore it's

2407
01:37:46,630 --> 01:37:44,660
just annoying oh I'm so glad you said

2408
01:37:48,490 --> 01:37:46,640
something man I feel the exact same way

2409
01:37:51,490 --> 01:37:48,500
and the only thing I can remind myself

2410
01:37:54,130 --> 01:37:51,500
of is that 90% of the people even more

2411
01:37:56,440 --> 01:37:54,140
than that 98% of the people listening or

2412
01:37:58,390 --> 01:37:56,450
reading your blog they read it they

2413
01:38:00,010 --> 01:37:58,400
enjoy it and they say nothing and they

2414
01:38:01,450 --> 01:38:00,020
come back next week and that's kind of

2415
01:38:04,210 --> 01:38:01,460
the way I got to think about it because

2416
01:38:06,880 --> 01:38:04,220
you do see these comments and sure it

2417
01:38:08,950 --> 01:38:06,890
might only be a dozen two dozen comments

2418
01:38:10,630 --> 01:38:08,960
but you're like wow they're the ones you

2419
01:38:12,430 --> 01:38:10,640
really remember and you're just like I

2420
01:38:14,680 --> 01:38:12,440
didn't think I was going to get that

2421
01:38:15,560 --> 01:38:14,690
reaction at all and you're like it makes

2422
01:38:17,540 --> 01:38:15,570
you kind of second

2423
01:38:19,520 --> 01:38:17,550
do I know my own audience like what's

2424
01:38:22,490 --> 01:38:19,530
going on here are they changing am I not

2425
01:38:23,149 --> 01:38:22,500
changing but yeah the sensitivity is at

2426
01:38:27,049 --> 01:38:23,159
an all-time high

2427
01:38:29,810 --> 01:38:27,059
yeah and I it's not going anywhere good

2428
01:38:32,270 --> 01:38:29,820
but you know we've got to have the KO

2429
01:38:33,950 --> 01:38:32,280
before we hit the Ordo I guess you know

2430
01:38:35,750 --> 01:38:33,960
I just that's the way it's gonna play

2431
01:38:37,250 --> 01:38:35,760
out I mean and that's really what I see

2432
01:38:40,899 --> 01:38:37,260
you know if you ask me what I see in

2433
01:38:43,520 --> 01:38:40,909
that new Star Trek it's like yeah it's

2434
01:38:45,620 --> 01:38:43,530
everybody gets along as as long as

2435
01:38:47,720 --> 01:38:45,630
they're wearing you know the Star Trek

2436
01:38:49,310 --> 01:38:47,730
uniform you know the Starfleet uniform

2437
01:38:50,930 --> 01:38:49,320
and even then they kind of don't get

2438
01:38:52,160 --> 01:38:50,940
along but you know if they don't you

2439
01:38:54,649 --> 01:38:52,170
know we'll put them in their place and

2440
01:38:57,560 --> 01:38:54,659
if not they'll die you know I mean

2441
01:38:59,600 --> 01:38:57,570
that's literally what the entire thing

2442
01:39:00,799 --> 01:38:59,610
is saying it's like if you're wearing

2443
01:39:03,410 --> 01:39:00,809
the blue and gold baby

2444
01:39:05,299 --> 01:39:03,420
you know the Royal the specifically

2445
01:39:07,729 --> 01:39:05,309
Masonic royal blue and gold I mean the

2446
01:39:10,790 --> 01:39:07,739
same exact tones same exact Pantone

2447
01:39:14,779 --> 01:39:10,800
colors you're okay if not we're gonna

2448
01:39:16,549 --> 01:39:14,789
kill you yeah man well I guess I should

2449
01:39:18,709 --> 01:39:16,559
let you go before we fully complete the

2450
01:39:21,229 --> 01:39:18,719
nine-to-five circuit that we've worked

2451
01:39:23,540 --> 01:39:21,239
so hard to get out of well it's been an

2452
01:39:25,160 --> 01:39:23,550
intense pleasure for me amazing I know

2453
01:39:26,479 --> 01:39:25,170
it's like I like I said any day talking

2454
01:39:29,299 --> 01:39:26,489
to Greg Carr would it's a good day as

2455
01:39:31,160 --> 01:39:29,309
far as I'm huh to kind and I I agree

2456
01:39:32,689 --> 01:39:31,170
with you did oh man I'm right there with

2457
01:39:34,910 --> 01:39:32,699
you I enjoy talking to you and of course

2458
01:39:37,040 --> 01:39:34,920
people should make secrets son they

2459
01:39:39,020 --> 01:39:37,050
should put secrets son in their sphere

2460
01:39:40,490 --> 01:39:39,030
of influence but what is there anything

2461
01:39:41,750 --> 01:39:40,500
else you're working on that you want to

2462
01:39:42,950 --> 01:39:41,760
tell people about before we get out of

2463
01:39:45,859 --> 01:39:42,960
here we can give them the link but is

2464
01:39:47,990 --> 01:39:45,869
Lucifer technology becoming a book yeah

2465
01:39:50,569 --> 01:39:48,000
well here's the thing I I have a rough

2466
01:39:52,399 --> 01:39:50,579
draft of a book a novel that I've been

2467
01:39:54,529 --> 01:39:52,409
working on that's it deals with a lot of

2468
01:39:57,709 --> 01:39:54,539
these themes I have the rough draft for

2469
01:39:59,689 --> 01:39:57,719
the first draft I should say I have so

2470
01:40:00,979 --> 01:39:59,699
many things you know it's just a

2471
01:40:02,509 --> 01:40:00,989
question of finding time to do it

2472
01:40:04,490 --> 01:40:02,519
because every time I really you know

2473
01:40:05,990 --> 01:40:04,500
start to pick up steam I have to stop

2474
01:40:06,830 --> 01:40:06,000
and work on something else I mean it's

2475
01:40:08,330 --> 01:40:06,840
the story of my life

2476
01:40:09,649 --> 01:40:08,340
but you know I've got to pay the bills

2477
01:40:12,379 --> 01:40:09,659
and the mortgage and everything like

2478
01:40:14,629 --> 01:40:12,389
that you know I've got like a lot of

2479
01:40:16,189 --> 01:40:14,639
things a lot of irons in the fire I just

2480
01:40:19,459 --> 01:40:16,199
need to find the time to really get them

2481
01:40:21,049 --> 01:40:19,469
done right on men yeah well best of luck

2482
01:40:23,509 --> 01:40:21,059
I guess we're racing against the clock

2483
01:40:25,970 --> 01:40:23,519
but you are one of the greats and take

2484
01:40:27,450 --> 01:40:25,980
care of yourself out there man oh yeah

2485
01:40:29,520 --> 01:40:27,460
you and your you

2486
01:40:32,310 --> 01:40:29,530
lovely wife as well and everyone

2487
01:40:35,940 --> 01:40:32,320
listening out there - right on thanks

2488
01:40:38,400 --> 01:40:35,950
man appreciate it then the knee people

2489
01:40:41,370 --> 01:40:38,410
Christopher null strop in knowledge like

2490
01:40:43,590 --> 01:40:41,380
no other a show I really enjoyed and the

2491
01:40:45,660 --> 01:40:43,600
whole Elizabeth Fraser thing is just so

2492
01:40:47,940 --> 01:40:45,670
weird I'd never heard of her yet she's

2493
01:40:50,250 --> 01:40:47,950
everywhere Lord of the Rings movies the

2494
01:40:52,650 --> 01:40:50,260
Millennium Dome performance these are

2495
01:40:54,600 --> 01:40:52,660
like major things and maybe some media

2496
01:40:56,280 --> 01:40:54,610
folks who have the eyes to see realize

2497
01:40:57,870 --> 01:40:56,290
that there was some power there and just

2498
01:41:00,270 --> 01:40:57,880
wanted to incorporate it into their own

2499
01:41:01,950 --> 01:41:00,280
projects I still struggle to know

2500
01:41:04,200 --> 01:41:01,960
exactly what I'm looking at with some of

2501
01:41:05,370 --> 01:41:04,210
this stuff but I love tying in Starbucks

2502
01:41:06,990 --> 01:41:05,380
to me that is something I've been

2503
01:41:09,330 --> 01:41:07,000
thinking about for a long time but

2504
01:41:11,220 --> 01:41:09,340
nobody really talks about just think

2505
01:41:13,080 --> 01:41:11,230
about the addiction people have the

2506
01:41:15,330 --> 01:41:13,090
Starbucks and the way they're summoned

2507
01:41:17,580 --> 01:41:15,340
by the siren every damn day

2508
01:41:19,770 --> 01:41:17,590
born from Seattle a city on the water

2509
01:41:23,430 --> 01:41:19,780
and if you look at the four versions of

2510
01:41:25,800 --> 01:41:23,440
the logo used since 1971 the theme is

2511
01:41:27,540 --> 01:41:25,810
zoom in on the siren remove all the

2512
01:41:29,070 --> 01:41:27,550
other elements now they've completely

2513
01:41:30,720 --> 01:41:29,080
removed the wording because I'm

2514
01:41:33,060 --> 01:41:30,730
convinced they just know the power of

2515
01:41:35,040 --> 01:41:33,070
the siren but there is so much about

2516
01:41:37,020 --> 01:41:35,050
this show I liked I think another great

2517
01:41:38,970 --> 01:41:37,030
point Chris made is that the value of

2518
01:41:41,580 --> 01:41:38,980
this type of study of being into

2519
01:41:43,590 --> 01:41:41,590
conspiracy culture is avoiding the traps

2520
01:41:45,660 --> 01:41:43,600
they lay yeah I can be depressing and

2521
01:41:47,760 --> 01:41:45,670
stressful sometimes but I just think

2522
01:41:49,410 --> 01:41:47,770
those are normal reactions to seeing the

2523
01:41:51,750 --> 01:41:49,420
real world sorry

2524
01:41:52,950 --> 01:41:51,760
sure ignorant and denial or bliss but

2525
01:41:55,620 --> 01:41:52,960
it's because you're in an artificial

2526
01:41:57,090 --> 01:41:55,630
bubble people should be depressed and

2527
01:41:59,970 --> 01:41:57,100
stressed and pissed off when they see

2528
01:42:01,979 --> 01:41:59,980
the world stage as it really is it

2529
01:42:04,020 --> 01:42:01,989
should be jarring when you are presented

2530
01:42:05,970 --> 01:42:04,030
with data that just doesn't fit into the

2531
01:42:07,350 --> 01:42:05,980
worldview that's been rolled out for you

2532
01:42:09,930 --> 01:42:07,360
and you actually have to think about

2533
01:42:12,060 --> 01:42:09,940
things for yourself that type of thing

2534
01:42:14,850 --> 01:42:12,070
is the only real catalyst for change if

2535
01:42:16,290 --> 01:42:14,860
a real change ever even comes because in

2536
01:42:18,240 --> 01:42:16,300
college I was really bright-eyed and

2537
01:42:20,160 --> 01:42:18,250
bushy-tailed and thought if just enough

2538
01:42:22,080 --> 01:42:20,170
people saw these zeitgeist movies we'd

2539
01:42:24,630 --> 01:42:22,090
all wake up to the ills of the system

2540
01:42:27,360 --> 01:42:24,640
and probably work to refine it but I

2541
01:42:28,590 --> 01:42:27,370
have lost a lot of that a while back if

2542
01:42:30,690 --> 01:42:28,600
you're waiting on the world to change

2543
01:42:33,120 --> 01:42:30,700
you're gonna be waiting a long time and

2544
01:42:34,530 --> 01:42:33,130
it is such a lame thing to say be the

2545
01:42:36,900 --> 01:42:34,540
change you want to see in the world but

2546
01:42:39,479 --> 01:42:36,910
it's also so true our fight is an

2547
01:42:40,500 --> 01:42:39,489
individual fight and by winning it to

2548
01:42:42,480 --> 01:42:40,510
the extent that we can

2549
01:42:43,620 --> 01:42:42,490
which really just means escaping the

2550
01:42:45,480 --> 01:42:43,630
nine-to-five or something you're

2551
01:42:47,430 --> 01:42:45,490
passionate about reclaiming your life

2552
01:42:49,080 --> 01:42:47,440
and doing just well enough financially

2553
01:42:51,090 --> 01:42:49,090
to distance yourself from the system

2554
01:42:53,820 --> 01:42:51,100
it's the only way to make a difference

2555
01:42:55,680 --> 01:42:53,830
if you don't follow rune soup let me

2556
01:42:58,620 --> 01:42:55,690
just say Gordon dropped on the blog that

2557
01:43:01,530 --> 01:42:58,630
he just bought a 5 acre farm in Tasmania

2558
01:43:03,420 --> 01:43:01,540
to start his permaculture paradise he's

2559
01:43:05,250 --> 01:43:03,430
not protesting on the streets or

2560
01:43:07,860 --> 01:43:05,260
blocking an unrelated highway

2561
01:43:10,050 --> 01:43:07,870
he's just manifesting the life he wants

2562
01:43:11,910 --> 01:43:10,060
to live sure he advocates that everyone

2563
01:43:13,560 --> 01:43:11,920
should live that way but it's not like

2564
01:43:15,510 --> 01:43:13,570
he's gonna sit and wait for the entire

2565
01:43:17,670 --> 01:43:15,520
culture to flip it on like a light

2566
01:43:19,470 --> 01:43:17,680
switch you just have to do it and then

2567
01:43:21,240 --> 01:43:19,480
more people do it and then industries

2568
01:43:23,550 --> 01:43:21,250
pop up to support people living a

2569
01:43:26,460 --> 01:43:23,560
sustainable permaculture life and then

2570
01:43:28,830 --> 01:43:26,470
that world gets bigger so if you do want

2571
01:43:30,600 --> 01:43:28,840
change you have to get it you have to be

2572
01:43:33,660 --> 01:43:30,610
it and not just talk about it at the

2573
01:43:36,060 --> 01:43:33,670
water cooler my life for example is

2574
01:43:37,680 --> 01:43:36,070
pretty far off from Gordon level mastery

2575
01:43:39,840 --> 01:43:37,690
but the enjoyment of life is definitely

2576
01:43:41,850 --> 01:43:39,850
at an all-time high distancing myself

2577
01:43:44,340 --> 01:43:41,860
from anything I don't want to do or care

2578
01:43:46,110 --> 01:43:44,350
about that's at an all-time high but I

2579
01:43:49,020 --> 01:43:46,120
still have a ton of work to do overall

2580
01:43:50,790 --> 01:43:49,030
or magic to do which if you've really

2581
01:43:52,830 --> 01:43:50,800
tried to get deep into is almost a

2582
01:43:55,170 --> 01:43:52,840
full-time job in itself it takes a lot

2583
01:43:56,670 --> 01:43:55,180
of discipline and dedication but like

2584
01:43:58,980 --> 01:43:56,680
Gordon Chris is one of those guys I

2585
01:44:00,810 --> 01:43:58,990
consider a bit of a mentor both of them

2586
01:44:03,090 --> 01:44:00,820
are members of that inner circle that I

2587
01:44:04,350 --> 01:44:03,100
tend to use to recalibrate when I start

2588
01:44:07,050 --> 01:44:04,360
to get a little bit lost in the

2589
01:44:08,640 --> 01:44:07,060
conspiratorial weeds I hope I can

2590
01:44:10,050 --> 01:44:08,650
actually get Chris back before the end

2591
01:44:11,820 --> 01:44:10,060
of the year to add in his latest

2592
01:44:14,430 --> 01:44:11,830
revelations and all the Vegas

2593
01:44:16,440 --> 01:44:14,440
connections and I think this might be in

2594
01:44:18,060 --> 01:44:16,450
the Plus Show but Chris also made a good

2595
01:44:20,760 --> 01:44:18,070
point about being careful not to

2596
01:44:22,560 --> 01:44:20,770
normalize pedophilia I do get so cynical

2597
01:44:24,840 --> 01:44:22,570
about it since it doesn't surprise me

2598
01:44:26,940 --> 01:44:24,850
anymore but we don't want to become numb

2599
01:44:29,730 --> 01:44:26,950
to what pedophilia really is and how

2600
01:44:31,710 --> 01:44:29,740
[\h__\h] up it actually is one last thing

2601
01:44:34,590 --> 01:44:31,720
I did want to mention about this overall

2602
01:44:36,900 --> 01:44:34,600
show and the idea of an entity or some

2603
01:44:39,090 --> 01:44:36,910
type of prophecy coming through this

2604
01:44:41,550 --> 01:44:39,100
type of musical channeling it might

2605
01:44:44,100 --> 01:44:41,560
sound really weird and far-out but as

2606
01:44:45,630 --> 01:44:44,110
Chris mentions in the blog and Preston

2607
01:44:48,600 --> 01:44:45,640
Gibbs mentioned in our show about

2608
01:44:49,920 --> 01:44:48,610
prediction magic Oracle's in Greece this

2609
01:44:53,350 --> 01:44:49,930
is kind of how they used to deliver

2610
01:44:55,300 --> 01:44:53,360
prophecy usually in some type of prose

2611
01:44:58,000 --> 01:44:55,310
and I know it's Hollywood stuff but you

2612
01:45:00,910 --> 01:44:58,010
do see examples of witches talkin and

2613
01:45:03,400 --> 01:45:00,920
dr. Seuss style rhymes a whole lot and I

2614
01:45:05,350 --> 01:45:03,410
think there's a basis for that so

2615
01:45:07,990 --> 01:45:05,360
considering that aspect if that is a

2616
01:45:10,960 --> 01:45:08,000
magical mechanism of channeling or

2617
01:45:13,510 --> 01:45:10,970
whatever in our world in modern times

2618
01:45:15,400 --> 01:45:13,520
that mechanism would probably come

2619
01:45:17,200 --> 01:45:15,410
through a musical artist and remember

2620
01:45:19,450 --> 01:45:17,210
that this is someone who did sing about

2621
01:45:21,460 --> 01:45:19,460
witchcraft and magic she did say her

2622
01:45:23,260 --> 01:45:21,470
songs tended to write themselves and

2623
01:45:25,750 --> 01:45:23,270
that she felt like a vessel for

2624
01:45:27,430 --> 01:45:25,760
something so it's a pretty big [\h__\h]

2625
01:45:30,280 --> 01:45:27,440
open thing but just nobody pays any

2626
01:45:32,830 --> 01:45:30,290
attention I guess if I had to describe

2627
01:45:36,430 --> 01:45:32,840
my worldview at this point it would be a

2628
01:45:38,740 --> 01:45:36,440
soup of syncro mystic notions Gnosticism

2629
01:45:40,420 --> 01:45:38,750
mild anarchism in the sense that the

2630
01:45:42,370 --> 01:45:40,430
smallest workable decentralized

2631
01:45:44,440 --> 01:45:42,380
governments would probably work best and

2632
01:45:46,570 --> 01:45:44,450
then of course throw in an animist

2633
01:45:48,610 --> 01:45:46,580
attitude towards consciousness and

2634
01:45:50,140 --> 01:45:48,620
clearly you can see the influence is

2635
01:45:52,810 --> 01:45:50,150
there but if you think about your

2636
01:45:55,090 --> 01:45:52,820
general ideas as part of a formula and

2637
01:45:57,040 --> 01:45:55,100
you think well here's some odd data

2638
01:45:59,140 --> 01:45:57,050
about the world how do I explain it or

2639
01:46:02,020 --> 01:45:59,150
maybe here's a reoccurring problem for

2640
01:46:03,990 --> 01:46:02,030
society and the control structure what's

2641
01:46:07,090 --> 01:46:04,000
the fix for that and you find yourself

2642
01:46:09,040 --> 01:46:07,100
inserting the same worldviews into the

2643
01:46:11,050 --> 01:46:09,050
equation and finding that things check

2644
01:46:13,420 --> 01:46:11,060
out well then you found a pretty good

2645
01:46:15,730 --> 01:46:13,430
philosophy and it's great to have

2646
01:46:17,980 --> 01:46:15,740
philosophies that don't require everyone

2647
01:46:20,080 --> 01:46:17,990
to think the way you do they don't seem

2648
01:46:21,940 --> 01:46:20,090
to work out too well but for example

2649
01:46:23,920 --> 01:46:21,950
when you get deep into consciousness

2650
01:46:25,810 --> 01:46:23,930
studies and near-death experience

2651
01:46:27,940 --> 01:46:25,820
plants and animals and our connection to

2652
01:46:29,800 --> 01:46:27,950
the world there's no part of what I've

2653
01:46:32,080 --> 01:46:29,810
seen that can't be folded into the

2654
01:46:34,540 --> 01:46:32,090
Animas perspective in some way so I

2655
01:46:36,610 --> 01:46:34,550
think I can check that box and it might

2656
01:46:38,380 --> 01:46:36,620
sound condescending but a big problem is

2657
01:46:40,450 --> 01:46:38,390
that number one the general population

2658
01:46:42,610 --> 01:46:40,460
doesn't have good ideas about life

2659
01:46:45,220 --> 01:46:42,620
anymore and number two without good

2660
01:46:47,920 --> 01:46:45,230
ideas there are no good arenas to test

2661
01:46:50,260 --> 01:46:47,930
them out in I wish the nation was tuned

2662
01:46:52,300 --> 01:46:50,270
in nightly as philosophers debated their

2663
01:46:54,790 --> 01:46:52,310
outlooks on consciousness and material

2664
01:46:56,980 --> 01:46:54,800
reality rather than them just trying to

2665
01:46:58,930 --> 01:46:56,990
sell you cars and pills in between broad

2666
01:47:00,490 --> 01:46:58,940
comedy and whatever stupid stories an

2667
01:47:03,550 --> 01:47:00,500
actor can get through just to promote

2668
01:47:05,280 --> 01:47:03,560
that new movie we've been dumbed down so

2669
01:47:06,859 --> 01:47:05,290
much that I can't even talk about

2670
01:47:09,169 --> 01:47:06,869
Gnosticism and sinker

2671
01:47:11,569 --> 01:47:09,179
mysticism or even decentralization with

2672
01:47:14,659 --> 01:47:11,579
very many people it's a very short list

2673
01:47:17,179 --> 01:47:14,669
I've seen a lot of people that surprised

2674
01:47:19,549 --> 01:47:17,189
me wake up to the idea of manipulated

2675
01:47:21,379 --> 01:47:19,559
manufactured events or false flags in

2676
01:47:24,500 --> 01:47:21,389
the wake of Vegas because it is so

2677
01:47:26,029 --> 01:47:24,510
sloppy but still a lot of my friendships

2678
01:47:29,119 --> 01:47:26,039
are based on who wants to go

2679
01:47:30,889 --> 01:47:29,129
paddleboarding or grab a few beers or of

2680
01:47:33,589 --> 01:47:30,899
course the shared trauma of working in

2681
01:47:35,389 --> 01:47:33,599
retail and I love everybody I hang out

2682
01:47:37,040 --> 01:47:35,399
with but you can't easily go years

2683
01:47:38,839 --> 01:47:37,050
without anyone getting deeper than an

2684
01:47:40,850 --> 01:47:38,849
analysis of various black mirror

2685
01:47:43,069 --> 01:47:40,860
episodes or an appreciation of the new

2686
01:47:45,290 --> 01:47:43,079
overwatch skins and oh yeah I have that

2687
01:47:47,419 --> 01:47:45,300
Cthulhu skin for Zenyatta so I'm no

2688
01:47:48,739 --> 01:47:47,429
better but my only point is that the

2689
01:47:51,350 --> 01:47:48,749
campaign's of dumbing us down

2690
01:47:53,029 --> 01:47:51,360
controlling our education and bombarding

2691
01:47:54,830 --> 01:47:53,039
us with the bright lights and flashing

2692
01:47:57,199 --> 01:47:54,840
colors of the digital era have

2693
01:47:59,600 --> 01:47:57,209
definitely had an effect a very very

2694
01:48:01,850 --> 01:47:59,610
deep one it's funny because I do have

2695
01:48:04,759 --> 01:48:01,860
lifelong friends that sometimes feel the

2696
01:48:05,959 --> 01:48:04,769
need to apologize and say oh I'm glad

2697
01:48:07,219 --> 01:48:05,969
you're doing well with the show I'm

2698
01:48:09,199 --> 01:48:07,229
sorry I haven't gotten around to

2699
01:48:11,839 --> 01:48:09,209
listening to it and I'm just like dude

2700
01:48:13,069 --> 01:48:11,849
don't even bother yourself because if

2701
01:48:15,259 --> 01:48:13,079
you're not interested in this type of

2702
01:48:17,779 --> 01:48:15,269
stuff don't try and force it just to do

2703
01:48:18,979 --> 01:48:17,789
me a favor I'm totally cool just smoking

2704
01:48:21,889 --> 01:48:18,989
a couple joints and going to see

2705
01:48:24,259 --> 01:48:21,899
Kingsman - [\h__\h] it I've spent too many

2706
01:48:26,389 --> 01:48:24,269
years trying to change the world now I

2707
01:48:28,549 --> 01:48:26,399
just want to have a good time and kind

2708
01:48:32,000 --> 01:48:28,559
of compartmentalize my conspiratorial

2709
01:48:33,649 --> 01:48:32,010
side like we do here and I'm sure a lot

2710
01:48:35,600 --> 01:48:33,659
of you feel the same way you listen to

2711
01:48:37,459 --> 01:48:35,610
this show you get deep into these ideas

2712
01:48:39,619 --> 01:48:37,469
but how often do you bring them up in

2713
01:48:42,139 --> 01:48:39,629
general conversation it's kind of a

2714
01:48:44,060 --> 01:48:42,149
privileged Club and like Chris said all

2715
01:48:46,549 --> 01:48:44,070
we can do right now is be good to people

2716
01:48:48,830 --> 01:48:46,559
take care of the ones you love the game

2717
01:48:51,350 --> 01:48:48,840
is bigger than any of us and so what are

2718
01:48:53,449 --> 01:48:51,360
you gonna do just keep in mind which way

2719
01:48:55,489 --> 01:48:53,459
the general wind is blowing what gods

2720
01:48:59,359 --> 01:48:55,499
are whispering in the ears of man right

2721
01:49:01,069 --> 01:48:59,369
now and navigate accordingly also sign

2722
01:49:03,589 --> 01:49:01,079
up for THC plus and all your wildest

2723
01:49:05,330 --> 01:49:03,599
dreams will come true and this plus Show

2724
01:49:07,580 --> 01:49:05,340
with Chris we switched gears to talk

2725
01:49:10,790 --> 01:49:07,590
about Braintree Massachusetts and the

2726
01:49:12,709 --> 01:49:10,800
surrounding area weirdness it is where

2727
01:49:14,600 --> 01:49:12,719
Chris grew up he knows a lot of strange

2728
01:49:17,239 --> 01:49:14,610
things about it and we got into the

2729
01:49:19,729 --> 01:49:17,249
Orion Krauss murder case how mind

2730
01:49:20,630 --> 01:49:19,739
control might fit into that picture how

2731
01:49:23,120 --> 01:49:20,640
that whole area

2732
01:49:25,310 --> 01:49:23,130
is a hotbed of military intelligence and

2733
01:49:27,170 --> 01:49:25,320
human experimentation and I would say

2734
01:49:29,780 --> 01:49:27,180
trafficking too but that seems to be

2735
01:49:31,370 --> 01:49:29,790
everywhere unfortunately we did get into

2736
01:49:34,280 --> 01:49:31,380
the influence of the nine which is one

2737
01:49:36,560 --> 01:49:34,290
of my favorite subjects and also Chris

2738
01:49:39,320 --> 01:49:36,570
pointed out that the date of ten zero

2739
01:49:42,350 --> 01:49:39,330
one one zero zero one I mean that's

2740
01:49:44,810 --> 01:49:42,360
binary four nine and this is the type of

2741
01:49:47,090 --> 01:49:44,820
event that shapes culture and that's

2742
01:49:49,940 --> 01:49:47,100
what the nine said they wanted to do is

2743
01:49:51,710 --> 01:49:49,950
influence culture so it's a weird string

2744
01:49:54,290 --> 01:49:51,720
of events but we also talked about the

2745
01:49:56,840 --> 01:49:54,300
Netflix shows a and stranger things and

2746
01:49:59,150 --> 01:49:56,850
the Babylonian cult behind the curtain

2747
01:50:02,150 --> 01:49:59,160
all great stuff sign up at the higher

2748
01:50:04,280 --> 01:50:02,160
side chats plus calm five dollars for

2749
01:50:07,220 --> 01:50:04,290
five extra hours a month you know the

2750
01:50:09,140 --> 01:50:07,230
drill treat yourself I'm sure you get a

2751
01:50:11,900 --> 01:50:09,150
lot more out of it than five dollars

2752
01:50:13,700 --> 01:50:11,910
spent most other places but I'm getting

2753
01:50:16,280 --> 01:50:13,710
out of here big thanks again to Chris go

2754
01:50:18,080 --> 01:50:16,290
listen to some Cocteau twins go read the

2755
01:50:20,690 --> 01:50:18,090
next chapters in the story on the newly

2756
01:50:23,060 --> 01:50:20,700
redesigned secret Sun site watch the

2757
01:50:25,220 --> 01:50:23,070
first THC and tinfoil hat live show on

2758
01:50:27,080 --> 01:50:25,230
our YouTube channel tide yourself over

2759
01:50:29,870 --> 01:50:27,090
for a few days and I'll see you soon

2760
01:50:31,970 --> 01:50:29,880
your move invoked entities sorcerer's of

2761
01:50:34,930 --> 01:50:31,980
symbolism and ethereal overlords of the

2762
01:50:38,860 --> 01:50:34,940
earthly plane you're buckin

2763
01:50:49,410 --> 01:50:44,370
oh no you see

2764
01:50:50,880 --> 01:50:49,420
the world isn't random it's attached to

2765
01:50:57,530 --> 01:50:50,890
power strength

2766
01:51:08,540 --> 01:51:01,980
95s tribes still yeah now don't that job

2767
01:51:13,260 --> 01:51:08,550
seem silly hello can hear me

2768
01:51:17,280 --> 01:51:13,270
should I play rap recordings from some

2769
01:51:22,810 --> 01:51:17,290
spy agency wish we were younger

2770
01:51:44,690 --> 01:51:28,810
I'll expose the batsman is such a

2771
01:52:41,830 --> 01:51:50,330
[Music]

2772
01:52:45,460 --> 01:52:41,840
they're cartoons it's so typical of me

2773
01:52:53,970 --> 01:52:45,470
to talk about that stuff I'm sorry

2774
01:52:58,180 --> 01:52:53,980
that's good and well did you ever hear

2775
01:53:06,400 --> 01:52:58,190
argument the nothing really happens it's

2776
01:53:26,230 --> 01:53:06,410
no secret and that the states it's done